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60 L. Tank Out Of Ballance
November 25, 2008
2:50 pm
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Or I am getting lazy or something realy has gone wrong, but since a day or ten my 60 l. tank is getting out of it's normal doing. Papamick turned up a few days ago, looking it;s fiercy self again. Only to get into a feisty fight with one of my tuxedo platy's which turned out to be male (I am so gonna get that l.f.s. lady that promised me they were female, both tuxedo's and both turned out to be male!) I waited till three in the morning ready to interfere if it got out of hand, but then my good sense came in and sent me to bed. I found papamick in a pretty badly state this morning. Anyway, the tank is poisoned with platy fry and one sort of oxygen plant, my cory's get shy, my tetra's don't show up for hours. I don't know what to do, because I have no other place to move all the platy's to. There is just this 12 liter tank, but it is just a tank, without heat, filter, light or anything. I need some feedback here, guy's, please?

November 25, 2008
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How many fish do you have in there?

If I remember correctly the tetras are five neons, which is too few for them to be comfortable and so increasing the numbers will help (ten would be good if you have the space). Increasing the planting will also make them feel less exposed.

Not sure which corydoras you have, but again these will be more confident in a larger group if you have the room.

What type of fish is PapaMick? If he's taken a battering from the platies I'd move him to the 12L to give him a chance to recover and do daily 50% water changes to compensate for the lack of a filter. Not having a heater could be a problem though.

In your shoes I'd be relieved to have got male platies rather than females given how prolifically they breed. The easiest form of fry control is predation by tankmates.

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November 25, 2008
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Do you have an airpump in the big tank? It may be worth moving it to the small tank whilst you are using it to help the water, as long as the room the tank is in is fairly warm and your water changes are not using cold mains you should be ok for a while.

November 25, 2008
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Hi, Eyrie. Papamick is just the nickname for my male Micky Mouse Platy. I called him that because I also had trouble with a male gup, which I nicknamed Papagup. I didn't change my usual batch of fishmates, but the amount of platy's grew explosively. There are no tankmate-predators. Not even my goldfish will eat the fry. Must be my buddhist influence /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />
In my 60 l. tank I keep 7 neontetra's, 2 zebra danio's. 5 corydora's and i used to have 5 adult platy's. The tank looks like a mini jungle so there are plenty places to hide. The trouble is the that I got two female platy's and three male platy's. But not by my own intentions. A months ago I buyed two tuxedo platy's and the lady said they were female, for which I had asked, but not a week later when they overcame their initial shyness, it turn out they were both males. I am trying to catch the fry and the adults males (of the platy's) and put them in the 12 l. tank, for the time being, while I am searching for a better place for them. I already bought a filter and a small heater, so that's already two less problems. One big thing is that the fish (the ones I am after) get into panic attacks and show almost epileptic bouts (gosh, I hope I typed that right).

November 25, 2008
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QUOTE (Bigbadbaz @ Nov 26 2008, 12:03 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you have an airpump in the big tank? It may be worth moving it to the small tank whilst you are using it to help the water, as long as the room the tank is in is fairly warm and your water changes are not using cold mains you should be ok for a while.


Hi Bigbadbaz.
It's not the water, I checked that. I removed a lot of oxygenplants and I managed to transfer 6 to 8 platy baby's, already there is improvement in the 60 l. tank. I would like to know if I can place the platy males together in the 12 l tank, ( just untill I found something else) or the females. Also the adult platy's show stress related "fits" )sorry, don't know how that is called in English. Like they are electrocuted.

November 25, 2008
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The platy male can go together, but with such a small tank you are going to have problems, do you have any friends/family with tanks, may be worthwhile shipping a couple of fish out on "holiday" to help you out.
If you were in uk in the north I could help you out..

November 26, 2008
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QUOTE (Bigbadbaz @ Nov 26 2008, 12:34 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The platy male can go together, but with such a small tank you are going to have problems, do you have any friends/family with tanks, may be worthwhile shipping a couple of fish out on "holiday" to help you out.
If you were in uk in the north I could help you out..


What if I put one male in the 12 l. tank, one in the 120 l. tank with the goldies, watertemps there are 22 c, and I leave both females in the 60 l. tank? My fancy goldfish are just big cuddlebears, they don't harm anything except the plants.

November 26, 2008
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You cold get away with putting either both male or females in the goldfish, if you put the females in there the goldfish would keep on top of any fry, if you could bring the temp up in the big tank they do it, but if you have no heater I would not bother.

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