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Acrylic And Rays!
September 1, 2008
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Russell
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As some of you are aware (jared) Im in the process of creating a fish house. The centre peice being a freshwater ray touch pool, without the touching!
Im making the tank out of 10 acrylic and will measure 1500 x 1500 x 350 mm roughly 750litres.
I would like some advice really, on how to construct this tank, the size of the sump required and wheter rays are pariculy "escapy" as I would rather not have a lid to this tank! cheers in advance
Russell

September 1, 2008
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Can´t offer a lot of advice about building an acrylic tank Russell but I´ve worked in a couple of shops that sold rays and never seen one leave the water beyond sticking its nose/front part of body out. I´d leave a gap of 6-12" at the top just to be sure but I don´t think it´s a massive worry. Neill (ndc) may be able to advise further. Sounds like a cracking project can´t wait to see the results! /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

Edit - Re-reading those dimensions I´d be tempted to make the pond a little deeper. An old 4 foot tank should do the job sump-wise.

Cake or death?
September 1, 2008
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I had done the calculations for strength based on a water fill of 350mm I suppose there is nothing stopping me increasing the size to 500 with a 150mm air space!
Im going to make the sump from acrylic too, as a tester for the main tank just to get me eye in as it were!
See the other sections for ray questions galore!

September 1, 2008
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I was considering acrylic for my 7ft tank but heard to many horror stories about them bowing after a while and things so went with glass, I know weight is a big factor but I just felt more confident having the glass tank.

You could try contacting Boss aquariums, they build both glass and acrylic tanks and will be able to advice you as to thickness needed and any other queries you have, I got my 7ft built on site by Boss and they were brilliant.

September 1, 2008
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Russell
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weight isnt the issue here its finance!
Got about a thousand pounds worth of acrylic for nothing the other day, will all be braced and checked by the structural guy where I work so should be fine!
Just cant find owt to bond it with!

September 1, 2008
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I have heard of people that have used both Weld-on 4 and Weld-on 16, they have said that they are the best available but have to be bought from the US.

September 1, 2008
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Hi Russell

Agree with Matt, I wouldn't skimp on depth as rays do often swim up the front of a tank. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Any idea what species you are going for?

September 1, 2008
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the acrylic should be fine with rays if you dont use a substrate as they are always moving up the sides of the tank and like matt says sticking their noses out. only problem with this is that id always reccomend keeping them on sand - but only about 1/2 inch or less as when they are stressed they like to bury themselves. a lot of ray keepers moved onto larger acrylic tanks but went back to using gravel to minimise the scratches - i def wouldnt use this as it isnt clean enough for them - too much crap gets stuck in it and the rays need tip top water quality. as the acrylic is free then a little scratching may not bother you and it can always be buffed out if it gets too bad in the future. the depth of the water would be fine (but i would say your 350mm is minimum) but if you can id make it deeper as youll see more from them with a greater depth and they look excellant swimming mid water.

September 2, 2008
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Actually limited now to 500 mm high in the tank - so probs rules out rays /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />
What other beasts can we have?

September 2, 2008
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the 500mm will still be fine for them - just meant they would be better in deeper - just like everything though , weve got what weve got and have to make the best of it, id still go for the rays if youve not kept them before as theres nothing like them, also dont be too worried about touching them either as i found that they were better to move by hand instead of in a net as they used to tangle easily. you can tell when they dont want to be touched as they raise their tails as a warning and a lot of ray keepers get loads of enjoyment from hand feeding

September 2, 2008
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are rays dangerous if not handled right?

September 3, 2008
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youve definately got to be careful with them but they arent the aggressive preditor they are made out to be

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