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Anubias Non Barteri!
February 23, 2011
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Does anyone here keep any Anubias species other than barteri and the ever increasing number of variants? I'm about to try and grow some hastifolia, heterophylla and heterophylla 'Lancelota'.

I just wondered if anyone could confirm if they're any different from barteri in terms of care? As I've not grown these before.

Thanks in advance
Jared

February 23, 2011
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All the species I've kept before are barteri variants, so I can't comment from experience but I would have thought that they are simialr to barteri in terms of care.

February 24, 2011
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Is A. lancelota not considered a valid species any more then? I used to grow it and yep same as A. barteri plus variants i.e. tough as old boots! Looks cool growing semi-emerse too.

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February 24, 2011
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Thanks for the replies. I thought they'd be similar to barteri but I think it's always wise to ask.

Matt, I concede I'm not 100% sure. I thought heterophylla and lanceolata were two separate species. However the suppliers (Oriental - A company known to have created a fair amount of cultivars) are listing them as heterophylla 'lancelota'. If I google this I find a reference to a page no longer there on your friends site hippocampus-bildarchiv.de but the page is missing! And I can't access the cached page at work as it's blocked by our 'acceptable use filter'! The plants I have look like every example of Anubias lancelota google images and all of my books have to offer.

I did also come across a reference to Anubias barteri 'lancelota' the other day when researching Nigerian biotopes. Will have to do some digging. I'm glad they're bomb proof though as they're going into a tank with low lighting levels. They look good too.

February 24, 2011
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Well, I just typed in http://www.plantbase.org in hope of finding something similar to fishbase.org. It led to a plant database called plantbase.net. Unfortunately there are not too many aquatic plants detailed at all. But it got me thinking, perhaps the SF knowledge base could be extended to include true aquatic plants at some point in the future? Just a thought... /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

February 24, 2011
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It's in the pipeline and a profile model will be included on the back end of the new site for whenever we want to use it. I ain't got time to write 'em for the foreseeable though...

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February 24, 2011
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Time eh? lol I know that feeling.

I could probably help a bit with info and pics on that front. Give us a shout when you're ready. I can buy in species you need pics for photograph them before being sold on etc. If that helps. Let me know.

February 24, 2011
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Photos would be a brilliant place to start and much appreciated to be honest Jared. Submersed, if possible.

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February 26, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Feb 24 2011, 12:44 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's in the pipeline and a profile model will be included on the back end of the new site for whenever we want to use it. I ain't got time to write 'em for the foreseeable though...

It's been in the pipeline a while Jared, think we first spoke about it this time last year Matt? pmsl

I've got a few profiles ready to go but i've not much time to do too many more at them minute but when i't up and running i'll try and make time - a couple a week soon builds up.

February 26, 2011
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Well if you have time Dave let me know what profiles you were thinking of doing first and I'll see what I can do on the pictures front. I can't obtain every species, but I can get an awful lot. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Were you thinking of including pics of various cultivars and hybrid species as well as natural plants Matt?

February 27, 2011
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Heh Jared,

I've had the following drafted and ready to go since last year, just waiting for Dunc and Matt to pull their fingers out! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Anubias barteri
Anubias barteri Var. barteri
Crinum calamistratum
Crinum natans
Crinum thaianum
Echinodorus bleheri
Echinodorus quadricostatus
Echinodorus tenellus
Echinodorus uruguayensis

February 27, 2011
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QUOTE (Jarcave @ Feb 26 2011, 02:32 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Were you thinking of including pics of various cultivars and hybrid species as well as natural plants Matt?

Yes please if possible. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Dave, pm'ing you now.

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February 28, 2011
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Guys you can have a look at this website for plant pics and info. He is a dealer from Singapore.

February 28, 2011
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Did you mean to post a link Nik?

Also see here plant geeks!

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February 28, 2011
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Feb 27 2011, 06:35 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heh Jared,

I've had the following drafted and ready to go since last year, just waiting for Dunc and Matt to pull their fingers out! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Anubias barteri
Anubias barteri Var. barteri
Crinum calamistratum
Crinum natans
Crinum thaianum
Echinodorus bleheri
Echinodorus quadricostatus
Echinodorus tenellus
Echinodorus uruguayensis

I stock all of those other than Echinodorus uruguayensis, but will see if I can get some in. I think you may need to edit the barteri variety? We're you thinking 'nana' or similar Dave?

I'll get something sorted in the next two to three weeks picture wise. Matt I'll take pics of plants submerged, out of water and bulbs as well as adult plants. Then you can choose what is appropriate etc. Assuming the picture quality is worthy of posting that is! lol

February 28, 2011
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QUOTE (Jarcave @ Feb 28 2011, 10:21 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you may need to edit the barteri variety? We're you thinking 'nana' or similar Dave?

Probably mate, i'll have to check - was 06:30am and England had beatenFrance in the Rugby the night before - bleary eyed hung over moment, pmsl

February 28, 2011
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QUOTE (Jarcave @ Feb 28 2011, 11:21 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I stock all of those other than Echinodorus uruguayensis, but will see if I can get some in. I think you may need to edit the barteri variety? We're you thinking 'nana' or similar Dave?

I'll get something sorted in the next two to three weeks picture wise. Matt I'll take pics of plants submerged, out of water and bulbs as well as adult plants. Then you can choose what is appropriate etc. Assuming the picture quality is worthy of posting that is! lol

Sounds great Jared. One thing about photographing plants is they don't move as fast as fishes.

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February 28, 2011
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Dave - Sounds like a great night. I was photographing pieces of marsh root and driftwood! /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> lol

I tell a lie though. I've avoided Ech. tenellus as the quality has never been much good. I'll get some in and plant it up to see if I can revive it. Unless things have changed in the last 12 months or so.

The thaianum bulbs I'll photograph and plant as these are quite quick growing.

Crinum natans is one species that has caused me grief historically. People have bought the real thing and expected Crinum natans 'Crispus'. When they see the straight leaf variety they reckon I've sold them Crinum thaianum by mistake. Even though the bulbs vary in size massively! I think this needs to be covered in the profile if it isn't already. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

March 1, 2011
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QUOTE (Jarcave @ Feb 28 2011, 02:20 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dave - Sounds like a great night.

It was! Drank far too much and fell asleep on the sofa at about 9 O'clock! Woke up about 6am feeling very bad!

QUOTE (Jarcave @ Feb 28 2011, 02:20 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've avoided Ech. tenellus as the quality has never been much good. I'll get some in and plant it up to see if I can revive it. Unless things have changed in the last 12 months or so.

I have found that this plant needs a lot of light and CO2 especially in taller tanks - did alright in this one - formed a nice carpet.

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QUOTE (Jarcave @ Feb 28 2011, 02:20 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thaianum bulbs I'll photograph and plant as these are quite quick growing.

Crinum natans is one species that has caused me grief historically. People have bought the real thing and expected Crinum natans 'Crispus'. When they see the straight leaf variety they reckon I've sold them Crinum thaianum by mistake. Even though the bulbs vary in size massively! I think this needs to be covered in the profile if it isn't already. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

A great point - in fact I think i'll need to check the profile as I imagine I've fallen into the same trap.....

March 5, 2011
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Apologies. I really forgot I had posted here. Here is the link

http://www.aquaspotworld.com/p.....t/2/5/2/20

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