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Aquarium Lawn And Plants For Bogwood/rocks
September 26, 2010
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Hi Guys,

I'm eventually having a few shrimp in my tank and wanted to make a lawn for them. What is the best plant to use for this?

I'm also looking for a few alternatives to Java Fern which I already have in my tank. I don't want to bury my plants, so I'm looking for plants that attach themselves and are reasonably easy to care for.

Thanks in advance! /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

Lighting: 6500k (but this cycles, that's at it highest)

September 26, 2010
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A planted lawn will be difficult, as unless I'm mistaken you are restricted by Reef One's substrate?

However, you could use Java Moss to create a lawn effect, it will grow in low light and shouldn't be planted. You could also try Monosolenium tenerum which is an attractive liverwort, and the same applies, it shouldn't be planted. The shrimp will happily graze amongst either of my suggestions, I'm not entirely sure how you will manage for maintenance though, as it might be difficult to deep vacuum your substrate with any kind of planting.

September 26, 2010
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Not sure how I forgot this one but, I've had success growing Pogostemon helferi attached to rock (so would work on bogwood). However, that plant has a higher demand for light and nutrients than the previous two. It does look much better that the Tropica pictures shows too /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

September 27, 2010
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QUOTE (Bully @ Sep 27 2010, 12:02 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
A planted lawn will be difficult, as unless I'm mistaken you are restricted by Reef One's substrate?


Hi Bully,

I didn't mean I wanted a planted lawn, but one similar to a java moss lawn as mentioned, but with a different type of moss/plant. As for maintenance, it will be on plastic netting and therefore can be lifted to vacuum under. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Cheers for the suggestions, I'll take a look! /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

September 29, 2010
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Planted lawns are always difficult - most of the plants that make a good lawn are high light, add CO2 types to do well.

Glossostigma elatanoides
Echinodorus Tennellus
Riccia Fluitans
hemianthus callitrichoides
utricularia graminofolia
eleocharis parvula (dwarf species - can't remember which right now)

All make great lawns BUT all require loads of light to avoid going leggy.

Anubias (various species from barteri var nana which is small to var barteri or cordefolia which get big) are great to tie to rocks and wood. Various mosses work well on wood as well.

December 18, 2010
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Agree with what has been written above. However as an alternative to java moss you could always try christmas moss Vesicularia montagnei. It's very similar to java moss but grows faster and has a more formal shape. Therefore (In my humble opinion of course) looks better. It does need a little bit more light than regular java, but not too much. I've had it grow in tanks with a bout 1.5 to 2 watts per gallon.

December 24, 2010
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Christmas Moss is one of the few aquarium plants I can get in Spain. Does it have any particular water chemistry requirements?

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December 28, 2010
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It'll grow in pretty much anything Matt.

Slightly acidic soft, water is generally better for it, doesn't like it too hard or alkaline in my experience. Will grow in a range of temperatures and light. Slow grower unless you've got tons of light and CO2, then it seems to grow quite quickly (for a moss....lol)

December 29, 2010
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That's me b*ggered then - the water is really hard and alkaline here. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Any ideas on what I might be able to grow Dave?

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January 11, 2011
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Dave, I've found that xmas grows quicker than java. Have you found otherwise?

Matt - Are you referring to plants in general? Or mosses specifically?

January 11, 2011
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Anything that doesn't need a lot of light and will grow in hard water Jared.

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January 11, 2011
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Vallisnera likes hard water, my water's so soft I cannot grow any Vallisnera, it just melts away.

January 11, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jan 11 2011, 12:26 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anything that doesn't need a lot of light and will grow in hard water Jared.

Crinum species such as thaianum, natans and calumistratum do OK in hard water and tolerate average light levels.

As has been said, so does Vallis, but some species do need reasonable levels of light. How many watts per gallon do you have?

And how hard is hard? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 12, 2011
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It comes out of the tap in excess of 20° gH.

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January 12, 2011
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That's not water, that's liquid chalk /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

January 12, 2011
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Yeah and it tastes disgusting too!

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January 12, 2011
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I've got a few species that might be OK.

Drop me your addy and I'll ship you some next tuesday gratis (See if they get further than the microworms).

I've read that some species appear to need more light in order to grow well in hard water. This isn't something I've experimented with personally, but it may well be true.

January 15, 2011
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Jared,

I've not noticed a big difference in the two in terms of growing speeds but I wasn't really making a comparison, so you may well be right.

Matt, I would still give it a go, I had some in one of my tanks in Dartford which has similar water hardness, it didn't grow very well but it didn't die! I was using RO in my other tank with CO2 and it grew like a nutter in there.

Hard water plants (not mentioned by Jared!) Anubias, Saggitaria Subulata, Egeria Densa, Aponogeton Bolivinianus

plants that will adapt to hard water (may be hit and miss) - Bacopa species, Limnophilia species (but need Iron), Cabomba sp, Hygrophilia sp, some crypt species

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