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May 23, 2009
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Matt
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I'm about ready to sort this section of the KB out before returning to cyprinids. Any experiences with these species would be very useful please chaps. Richy and Gustav, how's it going with the Dario? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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May 25, 2009
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Well, I got only bad news on my Dario hysginon /mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mad:" border="0" alt="mad.gif" /> They got struck by a disease I've never seen before. Big wounds infected with fungus started growing on their bodies, used some medicine against bacterial infections/fungus and it seemed to disappear only to show up again a few days later. The weird thing is all my 3 females died, but only 2 males (out of like 12) got infected. Also didn't raise any fry since I went on a trip to my parents just about when the fry started to hatch.
And my Hemirhamphodon tengah (in another tank) also got this mysterious disease. It seemed to "eat" their beaks over night, which was not a pretty sight I tell you.

It seems to be gone now, though, after I put down all infected fish. Gotta love fishkeeping, eh? /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

But my experience with them was that males are pretty aggressive against females during breeding, and the females need lots of cover. Other than that its no problem to get them to spawn but the fry need very small foods. Adults eats frozen and live foods.

May 25, 2009
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Oh no. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Do you still have some tengah left?

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May 29, 2009
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Can anyone confirm if this one which is sold as Badis sp. 'Myanmar', 'Fire Red Tiger Badis' etc. but is actually a Dario is a form of D. hysginon? The description paper would seem to suggest so...

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May 29, 2009
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There was a rumour going around these might be described as a separate species by Britz.

May 29, 2009
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Ooh really? I have emailed someone from the land of french fries and mayonnaise who may know more. /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

Need to know whether to list this one as separate in the species index...

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May 29, 2009
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Hi Matt , though I've never took a serious interest in the Badid fishes , I really do like them and have had a few in the past , I will watch this thread with interest !

Hi Retro /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> , good to see you here /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

May 29, 2009
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Hey Matt

D. hysginon usually has a much plainer crimson coloured body.

Regards David

May 30, 2009
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Yup David correct. The confusion is that what appears to be a specimen of the fish pictured above was collected alongside D. hysginon and included as a paratype in the description by Kullander and Britz as a form or colour phase of that species. However it has since been sold as (and looks for all the world like) an undescribed fish. I'd love to know if these striped ones breed true and if the females are also distinguishable from 'normal' hysginon.

Ps - does anyone know if Badis siamensis has been exported for the trade?

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May 30, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ May 25 2009, 09:06 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh no. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Do you still have some tengah left?

Unfortunately I don't /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

May 31, 2009
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Real sorry man. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

About Dario sp. 'Myanmar'; Stefan says that it has been considered a form of hysginon since the description and as things stand this is still so. He clearly knows more but has been sworn to secrecy so fair enough! I'll list it as hysginon for now and add a paragraph about it. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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June 2, 2009
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Hey Folks

As Matt, and SF members who are regular TAG readers, will understand it is not my wish or intention to 'gate crash' on the SF Dario information but just to assist those of you trying to breed these amazing fish.

We are now at the point at which Aquarium Gazette Issue 9 is almost ready for both burning onto disc (Word and PDF) and to transmit directly to an e-mail inbox (PDF only). As part of this amazing Issue we have a real treat for those of you with an interest in Badids as we feature:

1. A portfolio of Dario hysginon.

2. Before the SF Dario postings began two of our regular contributors had started to work together to produce a comprehensive article on spawning Dario dario (complete with amazing full spawning sequence photographs). This article is a step-by-step guide that gives pointers to watch for in male colouration, conditioning of pairs, expected daytime spawning hours, how to save the eggs and fry care etc. This article also includes general information on the Dario genus.

Regards David

June 2, 2009
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Note: the above post does not represent an advertisement in any way, shape or form. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Just kidding David, sounds a cracking read. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

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June 2, 2009
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Ok the species profile is finished for now. Thanks for all the help everyone and to Gustav/HW for the images. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Anyone know which species this is? B. siamensis maybe?

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December 10, 2010
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hi im new on here, i recently bought some dario sp. balck tigers. 2 males and 2 females. i recently purchased a couple more females. but they seem different to the ones have. they are slightly larger, one of them has long pointed pelvic fins and looks more like a dario hysginnon. i wonder if any canone can prove this or not by seeing the pictures.

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December 10, 2010
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Hi there. Indeed your new ones are hysginon. In the wild hysginon and sp. Pyjama/Black Tiger live together. Any way, I hope this answers your question.

December 10, 2010
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jun 2 2009, 03:41 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok the species profile is finished for now. Thanks for all the help everyone and to Gustav/HW for the images. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Anyone know which species this is? B. siamensis maybe?

I'm sure you got the ID on this one already, Matt, but if not; it's corycaeus.

Oh, and I choose cake.

December 10, 2010
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QUOTE (Stefan @ Dec 10 2010, 04:03 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sure you got the ID on this one already, Matt, but if not; it's corycaeus.

Oh, and I choose cake.

i knew they were different! the dominant male black tiger was showing agression towards one of them in particular. they also have different hunting habbits. the black tiger just seems to patrol up and down the tank looking for tiny worms. were as the male hysginnon seems to lay on the gravel for a few seconds and then move on to another spot and repeats itself until it sees something tasty.
very fascinating fish to watch.

December 10, 2010
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The D. hysginon in your pics are males as well, not females.

December 10, 2010
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QUOTE (oaken @ Dec 10 2010, 09:09 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The D. hysginon in your pics are males as well, not females.

I second that. Nice to see you here G.!

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