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Barboides gracilis
June 25, 2009
12:08 pm
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Matt
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Anyone with any experience or knowledge of this bugger?

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June 25, 2009
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Hi Matt , I have seen them at BAS they are what could only be described as micro barbs , tiny little things , I seem to remember another tiny barb B.sylvaticus coming in at the same time as these ,not sure about the husbandry really , these are for the micro fish fanciers , although there aren't many African barbs in the hobby , its a pity as there are some real beautys !

June 27, 2009
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I've only kept 'B.' fasciolatus of the African barbs. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Would particularly love to have a go at 'B.' jae one day. How did the sylvaticus look Andy? Also is the B. for 'Barbus' or Barboides?

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June 27, 2009
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Nice ! another tiny barb ,there was a pic in one of the early Baench atlas's the pic was labelled as a Rasbora , but was a Sylvaticus !

Not certain Matt but I think its either Barbus or Barbodes ?

For me one of the nicest of the Africans is B.holotaenia , with its strong black lateral band ,and its eye is a beautiful red along the top /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" /> Mick will tell you I had a decsent sized group about ten years ago maybe more ? they were coming along great when I introduced a disease and lost em ,I was gutted !

June 27, 2009
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Hi Andy I checked on sylvaticus and it's in 'Barbus'; seems there are only two species in Barboides. Shame about your holotaenia, they look like lovely fish. Haven't you seen them again since?

I'm after the following papers if anyone can help:

Loiselle, P.V. and R.L. Welcomme 1971 Two new species of Barbus (Pisces: Cyprinidae) from southeastern Dahomey. Rev. Zool. Bot. Afr. 83(1-2):1-15.

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Conway, K.W. and T. Moritz 2006 Barboides britzi, a new species of miniature cyprinid from Benin (Ostariophysi: Cyprinidae), with a neotype designation for B. gracilis. Ichthyol. Explor. Freshwat. 17(1):73-84.

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June 30, 2009
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I have a copy of the Conway paper lying around somewhere. Let me look it up. The other paper will probably have to be scanned from a print copy. I'll see if that can be arranged.

BTW, we need to get Chuck N (Manuran on petfrd) over here for these discussions. He has been collecting in West Africa quite a bit and has an envious collection of these fish.

June 30, 2009
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Paul Loiselle has kindly offered to send me printed copies of both papers but if you can get hold of PDFs that'd be swell Rahul. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> I don't know Chuck but if he's a friend of yours by all means give him a nudge. Whereabouts has he been?

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July 1, 2009
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jun 25 2009, 05:43 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Matt , I have seen them at BAS they are what could only be described as micro barbs , tiny little things , I seem to remember another tiny barb B.sylvaticus coming in at the same time as these ,not sure about the husbandry really , these are for the micro fish fanciers , although there aren't many African barbs in the hobby , its a pity as there are some real beautys !

I take these haven't enough silver in them Andy? /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

July 1, 2009
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/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> You got me sussed /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

July 2, 2009
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Is this the Pablito with the short shorts and shiny black vest ? /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

July 2, 2009
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Sounds like a Friday night on Canal Street! /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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December 31, 2010
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I'm allowing myself to pick up this thread to brag about my recent spawning.

First I got hold of two specimens one year ago in Copenhagen, but I unfortunately lost them in the spring. I guess they where old as they had been in the shop for one year before I got them.

Then I was lucky to get hold of a group of eight specimens during the Oklungen/Poecilia weekend i June. Mark from UK had brought them with him for the informal auction, and I was a heavy bidder. :-)

I placed them in a 12-litre with moss, bogwood and fine sand. I used peatfiltered water < =pH5 and fed them mostly baby brine shrimp and microworms. Some weeks ago I decided to move them in case there was some eggs to be hatched. Based on the experience that fry appears when parents move. Then I discovered that there was one specimen that was only half the size of the others, so this must have been born in the tank. Then I moved them to a longer 17-litre tank and after a couple of weeks I discovered a couple of tiny fry. Now I'm counting eight. :-)
I'm noticing that the smalles ones are feeding on the biofilm/algae on the tank sides, while the larger ones accepts microworms. BBS is still to large.

December 31, 2010
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May I have a copy of this:

Conway, K.W. and T. Moritz 2006 Barboides britzi, a new species of miniature cyprinid from Benin (Ostariophysi: Cyprinidae), with a neotype designation for B. gracilis. Ichthyol. Explor. Freshwat. 17(1):73-84.

Congrats on your spawning H.!! Well done and keep pouring in the info please.

December 31, 2010
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I've got some Lo-Q videos.

December 31, 2010
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Really nice, thanks for showing those.

December 31, 2010
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congratulations!

January 1, 2011
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Great work and thanks for sharing the videos too. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Do you think the adults predate on some of the fry?

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January 1, 2011
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Thanks for sharing! nice and interesting videos /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 1, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jan 1 2011, 03:57 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you think the adults predate on some of the fry?


I really don't know.
Since there was only one juvenile in the first tank they resided it may be that they predated some fry, but in the new tank where there's poping up new ones these days it does not seem like theres any predation. The newly hatched ones stays in the higher waterlayers, while the adults mostly resides a few centis above the bottom.

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