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Barbs For The Ellioti Tank?
July 23, 2008
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Looking for some barbs to go with my T. ellioti.

I'll be keeping the cichlids at an alkaline pH [nothing drastic, just above neutral] and about 26 degrees celsius. Not much current, sand/bogwood/pebbles/floating plants kind of environment.

The ellioti naturally occur in Mexico so I would prefer some barbs from there, but on our KB I can only see the Cherry and Rosey barbs that mention mexico in their habitat field.

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Endemic to Sri Lanka, where it's natural range extends between the River Kelani and River Nilwala basins. There are also feral populations exisiting in Colombia and Mexico.


Those "feral populations", are they naturally occurring or do you think they were introduced by man? I'd rather have the former if possible.

I'd actually love to have some quality Cherry Barbs in there, they're a stunning little fish /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Am open to other options - tetras, pencils, etc - but would like something I haven't kept before.

Cheers! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

July 23, 2008
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dunc any barb found there was introduced by man mate, what about a couple of sp of livebearers like the illyodon group or xenotoca family and maybe a couple of bog standard swordtails to supply live food for the cichlids by way of their off-spring.
btw you have'nt mentioned how big your tank is bud, that would give a better guide to what barbs would suit your tank.

mick

July 23, 2008
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Aye sorry lol, always forget something when I type up a post /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

It's 48L x 15H x 12W - 140Li/30UKG.

I would contemplate livebearers but you very rarely see anything special up my way - though, in fairness, I very rarely look for them. Maybe Keith would be able to help on that front.

If there are no barbs in me-he-ko, I'd rather go for something else - like the livebearers or whatnot.

July 23, 2008
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No naturally occuring barbs in Mexico mate. Feral = escaped from a domestic population. I think Mick's livebearer suggestion is excellent and maybe Keith can help you find something interesting...

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July 23, 2008
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Hey dunc

'Hoplosternum' thoracatum catfish make good companions for Firemouth cichlids and their relatives.

Regards David

July 23, 2008
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They don't naturally occur in Mexico though as far as I can see, would love to create a natural biotope.

Keiiiitth, help me with livebearers! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

July 24, 2008
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True but they do make good companions.

If you can find them these days one of the Ilyodon species would probably fit the bill for a livebearer in your set-up. At adulthood they have a fairly large body size and can move very quickly, and leap, should they feel threatened.

Regards David

July 25, 2008
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Am just gonna bite the bullet and get some fishes which I like the look of and haven't kept before.. maybe some Puntis rhomboocellatus and some Synos as I've never kept catfish other than Cories/L number plecs.

July 25, 2008
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Mate don't expect to see many young Thorichthys if you go with Synos, and I'm talking about the genus as a whole there. Also the rhombo barbs do best in soft, acidic water while the ellioti do better in slightly alkaline water, plus that particular barb is pretty shy ime. I reckon something a bit more robust would be better. Sorry if that p**ses on your fire a bit... /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

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July 25, 2008
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Mmm, any other suggestions then?

July 25, 2008
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just been to barr**** and although i wouldnt buy fish from there they had some nice barbs in. large black ruby barbs (b.nigrofasciatus) but maybe a bit nippy from what i saw of them

July 25, 2008
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Della has those in stock too, they don't do too much for me. Apparently they colour up nicely, but from what I saw they "just" look like black and white striped, large tigers.. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

July 25, 2008
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they do colour up nicelf - very bright red over half the body - woth having a look at

July 25, 2008
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dunc you have to see the males in full colour they're gorgeous bud.
if you want something in line with the syno's without the size are M paynei very good looker and easy to keep.

have you or do you know anybody who's a member of the live-bearers groups who could sort you out with some.

mick

just a plug, Paul Dixon goes to live bearer auctions when he can.

July 25, 2008
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Keith and fish48 are both members of the BLA and/or Viviparous I think...

Mick do you not think that Mochokiella would still pose a threat to cichlid eggs/fry?

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July 27, 2008
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Yeah, I am intending to breed these guys at some point.. though that'll probably be 6 months down the line.

August 23, 2008
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I'm back to thinking about these guys.

Anyone had any other ideas?

Am not too fussed really. Something that I haven't kept before, that likes slightly acidic, slow moving water and about 26 degrees.

August 23, 2008
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dunc mate, the one barb that comes to mind is assimilis similar to filaments but far more colourful.
it's pretty robust and grows to a good 5 inch, i would advice you to get at least half grown fish and if poss get at least 2 males, then you'll see some displays including lip locking.

mick

August 23, 2008
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Dunc they're the ones I had in the big tank above the geos with the Barilius and stuff that you always liked...remember them?

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August 23, 2008
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I looked at those on Wildwoods' online store.. they have them in for £33 each.. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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