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Belontia spp.
November 25, 2011
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Matt
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Apologies for all the anabantoid threads at the minute for those uninterested. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

That said, has anyone kept either B. hasselti or B. signata? Looking for breeding and upkeep info please.

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November 25, 2011
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Dont apologise - it was nothing but loaches and gobies for ages! LOL

Yes to B signata but Paul J would be a better source of info as he was breeding them for a long time.

Upkeep, very unproblematic and they went from pH 3 to 7 no problem
feeding easy - any dried foods were taken
aggression - could be a b*gg*r to others of the species but never to the death
didnt need a covered tank like some anabantoids
longest lived - 2006 to 2011
TL - biggest about 120mm

in short a very bold, interesting species sadly overlooked in the hobby

November 25, 2011
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Thanks Colin, actually deleted the comment but then yours didn't make sense so reinstated it.

Is it only males that are aggressive?

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November 25, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Nov 25 2011, 04:44 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
That said, has anyone kept either B. hasselti or B. signata? Looking for breeding and upkeep info please.

I have a pair of B. hasselti in a 325 L tank along with 12 Puntius nigrofasciatus. I decided to add the barbs because the male was chasing the female a bit too much, which made her hide a lot. I keep them in ordinary Copenhagen tap water, which is rather hard (23°), slightly alkaline (pH around 7,8) at a temperature of 23-25°C. They will eat anything of suitable size. Anything about the size of mosquito larvae or smaller is ignored.

I made a short video clip of them a short while after I'd bought them:

Belontia hasselti video clip

They're still in the same tank but they've got different tank mates now.

A friend of mine managed to breed a pair of them some 20 years ago in extremely soft and slightly acidic water in a 250 L tank covered on all sides in newspapers because his pair at least seemed to be easily disturbed.

I bought four 6-7 cm Belontia signata in December 1981. Unfortunately they all turned out to be male, but the last of them survived until around february 1st 1998. Quite an impressive age for such a fish.

November 28, 2011
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Did your friend raise any Plesner? Some of the stuff I was reading today suggested the male doesn't always build a bubblenest. Would love to know what strategy is adopted instead if this is true. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Also, are Belontia spp. aggressive towards similarly-shaped species or only each other?

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November 28, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Nov 28 2011, 08:56 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did your friend raise any Plesner? Some of the stuff I was reading today suggested the male doesn't always build a bubblenest. Would love to know what strategy is adopted instead if this is true. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Also, are Belontia spp. aggressive towards similarly-shaped species or only each other?

As far as I remember due to limited amounts of space available, he chose to raise only some of the fry. He ended up with 40-50 young, which he sold when they'd reached a decent size.

I suppose the eggs will float to the surface and the male will guard them whether or not a bubble nest is present?

I hope to breed the B. hasselti once they grow another inch or two.

I've kept one or more of my Belontia signata males with Ctenopoma kingsleyae, Ctenopoma muriei and Ctenopoma ocellatum and the Belontia didn't seem to care about them at all. The B. signata did fight among themselves though. They were ultra-aggressive towards any newly introduced specimens of their own species which made it impossible for me to introduce any females, though I did try twice.

November 29, 2011
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QUOTE (plesner @ Nov 28 2011, 09:24 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suppose the eggs will float to the surface and the male will guard them whether or not a bubble nest is present?

This is what happens with Ctenopoma species right?

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November 29, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Nov 29 2011, 09:11 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is what happens with Ctenopoma species right?

I've had Ctenopoma kingsleyae spawn three times. None of the parents seemed to care about the eggs at all.

The morning after my first pair did breed, the male killed the female, even though they'd been together for more than 6 years while growing to a size big enough to breed. All the eggs were wiped out by fungus. A few months later, I bought a small group of young (5cm/2inch) C. kingsleyae. After almost 7 years, a pair finally decided to breed. Unfortunately none of the many thousands of eggs survived a fungal attack. A few months later they did breed again and the male killed the female shortly after. I transferred around 100 eggs to another tank. Later that same week the air pump connected to that 2nd tank stopped working and every single fry died. After trying for 15 years, I decided that was my last breeding attempt with C. kingsleyae.

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