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Betta Macrostoma Have Spawned
April 9, 2008
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keith565
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OMG. went into fish house this afternoon and found my male macrostoma holding a Hugh mouthful of eggs. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />
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April 9, 2008
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Ahhh that's awesome news Keith, congratulations! /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

April 9, 2008
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Amazing.
Congratulations

April 9, 2008
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/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> Brilliant news mate! Did you see any of the spawning behaviour?

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April 9, 2008
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not a thing, went out for lunch and when i came back it was all over. i did a big 50% water change yesterday after it rained, and the female was looking plump.
fingers crossed he doesn't eat the eggs as they often do the first few times.

April 9, 2008
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Yeah the channoides did the same with the first few batches. Keep us updated I'm excited for you! /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

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April 10, 2008
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QUOTE(Matt @ Apr 9 2008, 10:05 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah the channoides did the same with the first few batches. Keep us updated I'm excited for you! /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />


i know what you mean about the channoides. i couldn't get them to spit fry out and now i can't stop them, lol.
will let you know how i get on. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

April 10, 2008
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darn, went into fish house this afternoon and the male mac was no longer holding the eggs. so back to square one, again.

April 10, 2008
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Oh, so sorry /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

April 10, 2008
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Ahh buddy. At least you know the fish are spawning though, and he's only a youngster right? I'm sure you'll be seeing plenty of wee macrostoma soon /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

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April 10, 2008
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QUOTE(Matt @ Apr 10 2008, 07:04 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ahh buddy. At least you know the fish are spawning though, and he's only a youngster right? I'm sure you'll be seeing plenty of wee macrostoma soon /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />


sure m8. and he is only about 9 months old, just breeding age now. so fingers crossed more eggs soon.

April 10, 2008
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Wouldn’t be so exciting if it was easy /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
But you have my sympathy

Hope you have more success next time /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

June 2, 2008
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well, i did a huge water change last night and when i went into the fish house this morning, the male was holding eggs. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />
fingers crossed 3rd time lucky. /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
already got the tank covered so as not to frighten him when i'm working in the fish house. so we will wait and see. /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

June 3, 2008
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Great news!! /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> It's funny I was reading something just tonight saying that they're more likely to go full term at lower temperatures. Not sure how much there is in that but there seemed to be a few folk agreeing *shrugs*.

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June 3, 2008
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hmm, i think it's probably right. the fish house temp is a few degrees lower then normal as i've turned the space heater off the last few days, and i suppose it must be the rain water to as they did exactly the same a few months ago. anyway, everything still crossed, can see 2 of everything now, /ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

June 15, 2008
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Any updates Keith?

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June 15, 2008
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No worries Keith ..... some of these male macs took about 8 to 10 times before they can really hold the eggs till hatching. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

June 15, 2008
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hey i m new here and i am from Belgium.... i have had 2 pairs of macrostoma.. ut unfortunally my first male jumped in a special part that runs to the biofilter.. so i found him dead... second had a dissease... and dead too now i have orderd another male because i have 2 female... but my first male was healthy and had eggs in his mouth when he jumped out so its a pitty thing...

second i have 2 pair betta albimarginata .. one pair spawned 5 times but exact after 4 days he eats them... is that normal?? whats your experience with it??

Now this week (maybe wednesday or thursday) i will recieve 3 pair betta channoides too from Germany /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

June 16, 2008
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Hi Miranda. It took my channoides a few attempts before a male held the eggs for the full term. It sounds like you know what you´re doing so if you´re patient he should brood successfully at some point. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Is the tank in a nice quiet place?

We´ll have to wait for Keith for macrostoma comments as I have no experience with them.

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June 17, 2008
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i keep my brooding channoides in the main tank, and with plenty of cover they don't touch their fry. i then remove the fry to a grow out tank once they are a week or so old. i've had great success doing this and passed on many fry to other breeders.
as for my albis, still waiting for my first breed but they were very young when i got them in novembers, so it should be soon, i hope.

ah, the macrostoma. everyone i have spoken to has the same problems with males eating the eggs.
i do know alan brown (from the betta brownorium name) has great success with them. however, he does monitor his water parameters much more than the normal betta breeder right down to the conductivity. he also uses acid (can't remember which one) to alter the Ph.
here was their reply to my questions about caring for macrostoma.

quote ''*** Our tapwater is aerated for a day and then adjusted to pH 5 point 5 for each water change. As food is added to the tank the water's acidity increases and slowly becomes more acid. Water changes are fortnightly to correct the pH.

*** Allan prefers conductivity to be as low as possible ... but conductivity level does not seem critical. His B. macrostoma are accustomed to between 150 and 250 microsiemans. This level also, increases as fish are fed and release waste.

*** Water temperature is 24 degrees Celsius.

As you probably already know, it is essential to carefully place a cover on a Betta tank. Bettas can jump through the tiniest of gaps around cover glasses, particularly if they are startled. Allan keeps a 'pygmy' 15 watt light switched on '24 x 7' in his fish room. In the absence of daylight this avoids startling changes from light to dark. The low wattage bulb is a dim 'pygmy' type of bulb and not a modern type of 15 watt bright, energy saving bulb. '' unquote

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