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Betta Splendens Fry
December 10, 2008
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Amy has about 25 fighter fry. Most of them seem ok, but she has a couple (as you can see below) that look very strange. From seeing the photos it looks to me like they just have clamped fins, but I do wonder if it could be something else.

Any help appreciated /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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December 10, 2008
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the fishies with the pointy tails are biger than fish with normal tails, so they're definitely getting food /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

December 11, 2008
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Almost surely deformed guys but that's to be expected among most batches of fry. Stingers rays are a good example. Sorry to be harsh but I'd be tempted to destroy them... /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

Cake or death?
December 11, 2008
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Most likely deformed to me ..... But to be safe maybe can separate the fry and treat them ...... just in case they have clamped fins.

December 11, 2008
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QUOTE (Haji Badaruddin @ Dec 11 2008, 05:01 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most likely deformed to me ..... But to be safe maybe can separate the fry and treat them ...... just in case they have clamped fins.

How would I treat them?

December 11, 2008
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I don't think she'll destroy them - she's too attached /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> I would, but it's never an easy thing to do.

There are only a few and it would seem odd to me that some of them are clamped and others aren't even remotely clamped.. meh I dunno, I've never seen fishes like that. It's a sad state of affairs if they are deformed /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Poor things!

December 11, 2008
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what diet are they on? and how much water changes do u do and what percentage?

December 11, 2008
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Mostly just dry foods from RM (was that the name? I forget) and frozen cyclops. Water changes tend to be once a week, 25%.

December 11, 2008
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QUOTE (Amy @ Dec 11 2008, 06:01 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
How would I treat them?

Me ... i just use yellow powder with some rock salt to the tank.Some of my friends up the temperature to speed the curing process.Usually recover 3 - 5 days depend on the severity of the disease.

December 11, 2008
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QUOTE (dunc @ Dec 11 2008, 02:22 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mostly just dry foods from RM (was that the name? I forget) and frozen cyclops. Water changes tend to be once a week, 25%.

try upping the diet up with some bloodworms, or maybe some chicken liver cut in very small pieces (it tends to foul up the water, so do it couple of hours before waterchane) - whats RM?

and water changes should be ideally 1/2 twice weekly for now. also up the temp to 28C and add some aquarium salts - unless its genetic water quality maybe the main issue

December 11, 2008
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QUOTE (dunc @ Dec 11 2008, 10:19 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think she'll destroy them - she's too attached /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> I would, but it's never an easy thing to do.

There are only a few and it would seem odd to me that some of them are clamped and others aren't even remotely clamped.. meh I dunno, I've never seen fishes like that. It's a sad state of affairs if they are deformed /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Poor things!

I'll be a fish Occupational Therapist & look after them /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

I've just given then a water change and one with a pointy tail has its top fin up it's not up as much as the others but it's still up /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

December 12, 2008
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This may sound very stupid, but I wonder if it could be genetic. I have no clue if fish siblings pair and get deformed youngsters, nor the number you get figuring out their chromosones (God, I hope I said that correctly), maybe it's one in 10 or even more, fish fry that could have been expected to get deformation. I may ofcourse be way way off course, ofcourse. It's just a thought, (and thoughts can be changed) Good luck, Amy! /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

February 8, 2009
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All of these guys are around an inch in length now.. and there's not a single deformity to be seen.

Either the deformed fish have died, which I doubt as they were the biggest of the group, or they were just clamped after all.

They're all doing really well, really starting to display their colours now. I think there's about 40.

February 8, 2009
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That's good news. Good luck! /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

February 8, 2009
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Cool. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Have the males started to be aggressive to one another yet?

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February 9, 2009
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Nah they're not that big yet Matt.

Originally Amy bought 4 "females" and it wasn't until they were around 3" TL that they started displaying and trying to make babies. She kept them fine (in the end it was 2 males, 2 females) for like three months.. then they obviously came in to true sexual maturity and started kicking off. Pretty odd /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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