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Botia Striata Guilty Or Innocent?
July 18, 2008
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I do not know if any of you are botia fanatics, but I have had my go around with keeping quite a few of them. Skunk loaches b.horae? are Very Bad Little Citizens, who, having rid your tank of snails, will then deprive the resident fish of their eyeballs during the night..... /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

Once I asked Greg, our local FSguy, "what if you had a giant apple snail and a botia?" and he answered "it would not be a pretty sight".... /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

So when my tiger barbs, whom I thought would be Fierce, all began trying to look like just one of the bubbles, I suspected foul play from the supposedly peaceful botia striata. Duncan held on to the idea that they were not likely to be the source of the trouble. But Just In Case, I moved the four striata into the Rainbow tank, to see what happened there....

Oddly enough, all the Rainbows spent some time in one corner of the tank...this went on for a couple of days, even though I only Once saw a striata chase around one of my big, male, Red New Guineas, trying to nibble at his gills. I went straight out and bought fresh frozen worms, and it stopped. Next I see the clown loaches and angelicus loaches sitting up high on the tallest plants.

As if to say, like the cowardly lion, "I Do believe in spooks" /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />
Then today, all eight of the botia's are as integrated as an inner city high school..swimming all around together, in and out of the pots and rocks, and the Rainbows are back to their usual activities.

And the tiger barbs? In the other tank, with the Ctenopoma and Kribs...
Still standing on their heads /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

July 18, 2008
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Can't say I've ever had problems with my striata, and they're in with sids and various tetras.

I'm sure headstanding is normal for tiger barbs, so I wouldn't worry about it.

PS: The skunk loach Botia horae is now classed as Yasuhikotakia morleti.

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July 19, 2008
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QUOTE (Eyrie @ Jul 18 2008, 07:43 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
PS: The skunk loach Botia horae is now classed as Yasuhikotakia morleti.

I am pedaling as fast as I can /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
I went to the shop where I purchased the tiger barbs, and sure enough, you are right! some of them in the store were head standing too! I didnt notice it when I purchased them. None of the other barbs I have had do this /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />
I have had Rosey's , Ruby's , Clown, Checker, Cherry, Spanner, and Aurelius barbs , and nobody has ever done head stands before. I guess loss of two of the barbs from a purchase place that was less than healthy to start with had nothing to do with my own fish and water quality after all.
thanks Eyrie and everyone who commented to help me with the dilemma /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

July 19, 2008
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QUOTE (Reva @ Jul 19 2008, 08:30 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am pedaling as fast as I can /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />


There's always somebody pedantic enough to give the latest name /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

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July 19, 2008
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all my young botia's try to nibble at something near the gills, it's usually near feed time or not long after, so i'm wondering if they're trying to find titbits to eat as they never do any damage to my other fish, they're more of an annoyance to them.

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July 19, 2008
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QUOTE (Eyrie @ Jul 19 2008, 11:55 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's always somebody pedantic enough to give the latest name /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

...yes, and it makes a change from me doing it! /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> I really don't see it as pedantic though, more useful for other folk using the forum... /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Cake or death?
July 21, 2008
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QUOTE (mickthefish @ Jul 19 2008, 02:10 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
all my young botia's try to nibble at something near the gills, it's usually near feed time or not long after, so i'm wondering if they're trying to find titbits to eat as they never do any damage to my other fish, they're more of an annoyance to them.

mick

that's kind of a relief...I dont think the striata had anything to do with the barb problem. the reason I even suspected it is because a few small fish disappeared from the original tank they were in. I now believe the culprits were the pictus cats in that case. In the case of the barbs, they are still standing on their heads, and I have lost another one this morning. Nobody in the tank is bothering them, and everyone else is healthy. I lowered the hardness, the tank is not overcrowded, there are enough of them to make a school. I just dont get it.
But the botias are all happy to be together. 2 clowns, two angelicus and 4 striata make a nice little group dynamic. Rainbows all acting normal. If I feed enough frozen meats the botias dont do the gill thing at all.

at the fish store: /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> "Uh...can I buy that plant there with all the snails on it? thanks. bye."

July 21, 2008
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QUOTE (Reva @ Jul 21 2008, 06:15 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
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at the fish store: /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> "Uh...can I buy that plant there with all the snails on it? thanks. bye."

/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> bet you bought it for the snails....

July 21, 2008
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hi Reva, the pictus cats could be the problem especially to smaller fish as this cat is a predator.
it could also be unnerving other larger fish as they become more active at night or when the lights are off.
i always prefer to have corydoras in my tanks as they would'nt harm a fly never mind a fish.

mick

July 21, 2008
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Hey

Even the genus Corydoras cannot get away without a bully and in this respect
C. davidsandsi can be a real pain to keep.

Regards David

July 21, 2008
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David, i and qite a few people have kept and bred davidsandsi and never had any problems with the or any of the cory sp, it's probably the water in Yorkshire mate. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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July 22, 2008
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never had any trouble with corys here...although they do eat alot those little buggers /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

I have C.paleatus atm

July 22, 2008
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Duncan is it ok if Malti /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> ???

I went through my corydoras collecting days and then got bored. I like them for any kind of tank that needs cool water though. Nowadays it's those big mouthed, long whiskered, ninja like big cats that get my fancy. /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" /> hence, No Tetras...

But the only catfish in with the barbs is my newly accquired upside down syno, and a teensie baby pleco...

July 22, 2008
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QUOTE (Reva @ Jul 22 2008, 08:49 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Duncan is it ok if Malti /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> ???

/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> where am i using --> /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> ? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

July 22, 2008
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I've kept C. davidsandsii in a mixed group with other corys and never had any problems with them, either. Mick's right, must be all that raw meat and beer in Yorkshire! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

Cake or death?
July 22, 2008
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QUOTE (Malti @ Jul 21 2008, 09:23 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> bet you bought it for the snails....


How soon they forget /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> (five posts or so ago my dear) At least Duncan didnt see /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

hey Matt, can you please post a pic of the beer and raw meat eating catfish you are talking about...my pet sitting is making me run today, and uh...remember...not a geek.....

July 22, 2008
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I only said you weren't allowed to roll your eyes in that one post, it wasn't a board-wide requirement /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

July 22, 2008
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QUOTE (dunc @ Jul 22 2008, 08:06 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I only said you weren't allowed to roll your eyes in that one post, it wasn't a board-wide requirement /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />


but I love teasing authority figures /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

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/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> @ authority figure /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

July 22, 2008
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QUOTE (dunc @ Jul 22 2008, 08:12 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> @ authority figure /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />


You have great cosmic cyber power to press that X /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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