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Coldwater Fish
February 11, 2008
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Is there many fish other than goldfish that can be kept as indoor coldwater fish?

February 12, 2008
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There aren't a huge amount, unfortunately.

One fish that I would recommend to anyone wanting to keep an indoor coldwater aquarium is the White Cloud Mountain Minnow, the profile of which can be found here:
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/p.....file.php?g...ecies=albonubes

As Matt wrote in that profile:
"This species mostly inhabits cool, slow-flowing mountain streams. The substrate is often composed of smooth, water-worn rocks and pebbles of varying sizes. Winter temperatures can be as low as 5°C."

They're easy to keep and can be quite attractive - males in particular can develop intense red colouration on their caudal fins.

A lot of the other coldwater species - Koi, Tench, Rudd, Orfe etc are too large and too active to be kept indoors, plus they prefer cooler water temperatures which can be difficult to maintain in a house with heating /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

February 12, 2008
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There are a few different varients of goldfish too, fantails and black moors and those kinds of fancy goldfish. Theyre ment to be better for indoor cos they prefer warmer temperatures. Dont think theyd survive outdoors?

February 12, 2008
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There's actually a lot more than people realise. A lot of the hill stream species from various Asian countries prefer cooler conditions. Tanks containing some Danio species and things like Barilius, Opsarius, or hill stream loaches can actually suffer from overheating problems in summer. The recently discovered Vietnamese Mountain Minnow, Tanichthys micagemmae is really beautiful.

Chaetostoma, usually sold as bulldog plecs like cool water, too. Some of the Gymnogeophagus cichlids from Argentina are also better kept in unheated tanks for at least part of the year, although they might be tricky to get hold of.

There's also the weather loach, of course and many shops seem to be selling the "Sucking Loach" (Gyrinocheilus aymonieri ) for coldwater tanks these days. These will probably survive but they can get quite large and aggressive as they mature. Not one I'd recommend personally.

There are also loads of North American species that are suitable, although some are banned from export these days. One that does spring to mind and is ideal for small tanks is the Everglades Pygmy Sunfish, Elassoma evergladei . Don't see them for sale very often but they have fascinating behaviour and are super cute!

Hope that helps /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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February 12, 2008
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How could I forget all those lot /ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> Especially the Gymno.. http://www.seriouslyfish.com/p.....php?id=188

I don't think I've ever seen one of those in the flesh unfortunately, at least not up here. Have you Mr Ford?

February 12, 2008
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Yes I've seen G. meridionalis and balzanii in the flesh. The meridionalis made me go /ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> Really stunning.

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February 12, 2008
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Wow.. that is an extremely attractive fish.

February 12, 2008
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So pretty, I've seen them with a lot more red on them than that too. G. gymnogenys is also nice...

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March 29, 2008
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it all depends on what is considered cold water. winter conditions would be slim pickins unless you are into game fish like bass, trout, and the likes. but i was surprised to learn of quite a few tropicals that prefer temperatures in the mid to low 70's F (low 20's C) some mountain stream fish from Mexico, Costa rica, ect. i will reseach this and edit this post.

March 29, 2008
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That would be really interesting, cheers! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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QUOTE (galilee @ Mar 29 2008, 06:06 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
it all depends on what is considered cold water. winter conditions would be slim pickins unless you are into game fish like bass, trout, and the likes. but i was surprised to learn of quite a few tropicals that prefer temperatures in the mid to low 70's F (low 20's C) some mountain stream fish from Mexico, Costa rica, ect. i will reseach this and edit this post.

There are many South American Annuals (mainly Austrolebias) that will do well outdoors in the UK summer (some can overwinter in the south) Oryzias Latipes the little temperate rice fish (this fella will survive under ice) is a great little fish for patio tubs. Many Aphanius species will overwinter in the UK (although a Killi, they are not annuals). Corydoras paleatus is near enough a temperate fish (I have had them spawn below 65deg).I am sure the list goes on
Phill.

August 12, 2008
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Pier Aquatics in Wigan had a good number of Gymnogeophagus last time I was there.

September 8, 2008
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QUOTE (dunc @ Feb 12 2008, 05:13 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Wow.. that is an extremely attractive fish.

O..m...g...(drops chin on table and recollects it) I think I am in love. Gonna snatch that picture if you don't mind, because I just HAVE to (try to) draw and paint this adorable fish. Such beauty. Wow. /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

September 8, 2008
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QUOTE (thelizzious @ Sep 8 2008, 10:02 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
O..m...g...(drops chin on table and recollects it) I think I am in love. Gonna snatch that picture if you don't mind, because I just HAVE to (try to) draw and paint this adorable fish. Such beauty. Wow. /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

we demand (please) pics of drawings then /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> after all it could be the SF Fan Art

September 11, 2008
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QUOTE (Malti @ Sep 8 2008, 09:41 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
we demand (please) pics of drawings then /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> after all it could be the SF Fan Art


Working on it. (disclaimer: the artist wishes to let you know that the end result will be her own personaly view of the object) You have been warned. (lol)

September 11, 2008
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well if your personal view is van goghish I don't mind, have some probs with picasso though /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

September 11, 2008
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QUOTE (Malti @ Sep 11 2008, 07:15 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
well if your personal view is van goghish I don't mind, have some probs with picasso though /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />


Neither van Gogh nor Picasso, but that doesn't say you don't have to worry. I am a bit confused by the blueish spot in the middle of the fish's side. Is that shadow or just a blur on the picture? Though on the other picture there is a definitive blueish glow. Can someone help me out here?

September 11, 2008
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I think thats part of their colouring...dunno the experts should answer that...

and also don't worry...be happy is my motto so I'm not worrying about the painting /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

September 11, 2008
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The spot is natural Liz. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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September 12, 2008
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 11 2008, 11:24 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The spot is natural Liz. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />


Thanks, Matt. Can you please inform me how to upload the scanned painting as I could not find a FAQ about it. I am hopeless with new website-forums, it takes for ever to find my way /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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