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Colisa chuna And Boraras maculatus
March 21, 2011
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Hi Matt
as promised some pics.
the colisas were very hiding all the time. so I did some gardening to take the pics.
boraras maculata came in as "containment" of boraras brigittae. they took the opportunity to visit the "open space"

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PS: boraras maculatus of course. it's still on the importer's list as "maculata"
I don't know if the first eggs of chuna are going to hatch. took a nest out of the tank, but if I remember right, the fry is tiny

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March 22, 2011
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What's that stripy critter on the substrate in the first few Boraras pics Charles? Some Brachygobius sp.?

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March 22, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 22 2011, 09:22 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's that stripy critter on the substrate in the first few Boraras pics Charles? Some Brachygobius sp.?

they are on the list as b. xanthozonus but are b. doriae in my opinion.
the pics I sent you are of the b. xanthozonus Pascal found in Borneo.

March 22, 2011
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Nice pictures Charles.

Isn't that B. merah in the last picture?
Lovely little fishes.

March 22, 2011
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The last one looked like a B. merah to me too. Are you sure they are maculatus? They look more like B. micros, lovely fish though.

March 22, 2011
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Agreed that the last one is different but the rest look like B. maculatus to me. B. micros is a fairly colourless fish.

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March 23, 2011
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hi Matt
the question when the name changed into colisa? as far I remember it was BRITZ to propose the change in 2004. here the last statement I know.

http://labyrinthfisch-forum.de.....showthread....mp-Trichogaster

seems logic to me. but as I said in another thread, I'm far away from labyrinth-matters since some years. fishbase didn't change the names, so I'm not shure what is valid.

for the last pic: it's B. merah. in Germany there is a discussion going on if B. merah is B. brigittae. I'll try to find the articles.
cheers Charles

March 23, 2011
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I think Britz proposed the name change from Colisa to Trichogaster?

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March 23, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 23 2011, 01:32 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Britz proposed the name change from Colisa to Trichogaster?


that's right. as I don't have the paper I can't say more about

R. Britz: Why Colisa has become Trichogaster and Trichogaster is now Trichopodus. In: AAGB Labyrinth. 136, 2004, S. 8–9.

I just had a glimps here

http://joomla.igl-home.de/inde.....php?option...ng=de#schindler

March 23, 2011
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Charles, check your mail. I sent it to you yesterday. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

Edit: forgot to say thanks Colin for getting it in the first place. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

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March 23, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 23 2011, 04:34 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Charles, check your mail. I sent it to you yesterday. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

thanks, Matt. of course I've got it, but stocked it for the weekend. got some work to do ... d... sites everywhere /mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mad:" border="0" alt="mad.gif" />
about the change: "That is not too bad". (Britz)
I agree

April 25, 2011
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Brilliant - did you separate the fry from the parents Charles?

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April 25, 2011
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in a certain way: I saw some pebbles, took the pet-bottle formed to a cup ("Fangglocke") and flinged all into the woworae tank. and forgot about it.

June 2, 2011
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Great!

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June 15, 2011
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QUOTE (Kajsa12 @ Mar 22 2011, 08:53 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't that B. merah in the last picture?
Lovely little fishes.

I just found the article about boraras merah-boraras brigittae.

Hans-Jürgen Körner: Die Barat-Zwergrasbora-eine Farbvariante der Moskitorasbora; Amazonas 22 2009

the discussion if the author was right with the conclusion - that's the same species - goes on. Frank Schäfer denies, the author keeps up his opinion after a lot of generations he's bred. the fry shows both patterns and colouring.
I couldn't get fry up till now.
the last article about this matter was in BSSW. it's must be somewhere in my library.
if anybody needs the article ...

June 15, 2011
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QUOTE (torso @ Jun 15 2011, 11:18 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just found the article about boraras merah-boraras brigittae.

Hans-Jürgen Körner: Die Barat-Zwergrasbora-eine Farbvariante der Moskitorasbora; Amazonas 22 2009

the discussion if the author was right with the conclusion - that's the same species - goes on. Frank Schäfer denies, the author keeps up his opinion after a lot of generations he's bred. the fry shows both patterns and colouring.
I couldn't get fry up till now.
the last article about this matter was in BSSW. it's must be somewhere in my library.
if anybody needs the article ...

Erik Åhlander is working on an article about this matter at the moment. I think it will be published in english as well.

June 16, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 22 2011, 11:10 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed that the last one is different but the rest look like B. maculatus to me. B. micros is a fairly colourless fish.


Late reply but I´ve always been a slow starter.

The "normal" type of B. micros is pretty drab yes, but there is also a morph that is quite red.

Gustaf the article Åhlander is working is regarding B. brigittae and B. merah isn´t it? Pleasure to meet you in person by the way!

June 16, 2011
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QUOTE (Senor Bastardo @ Jun 16 2011, 07:08 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gustaf the article Åhlander is working is regarding B. brigittae and B. merah isn´t it? Pleasure to meet you in person by the way!

Indeed. But torso was refering to that topic in that post /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />. Yeah, it was nice!

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