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College 10 gallon
September 11, 2016
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So I was thinking of getting a ten gallon for college because its a good size. For liters about 38 for you outside the US.

Three questions and the first is easiest I think. First what kind of filter should I use? I already have a Fluval u1 but is this going to be good enough for the tank?

Now the second is should I do a larger group of say Sundadanio axelrodi like 10-14 or should I do a smaller group with a pair or trio of something small like Dario dario or something like that.

Last what would be something good to get fish wise. I need a place to buy the fish because they aren't common and what to buy because no offense but I don't want to get a Betta splendens but if that is a good option then I might.

So what filter should I get? Should I get a shoaling and a pair type of fish or just shoaling? And where should I get my fish and what type of fish could be good besides the ones I've sort of listed?

Thank you so much everyone hope I was clear on everything.

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September 11, 2016
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The filter rather depends upon the fish, and live plants.  I would hope plants are intended, as they will benefit not only water quality but the fish suited to this sort of aquarium.  So with that in mind, you could use a simple sponge filter, though this means an air pump.  The Fluval U1 might be too much for this sort of tank; I've not had it myself so I have no idea just how much current it produces, or if this can be controlled.  With the sort of small "nano" fish you do not want anything but minimal water current.  No filter at all is an option; I had a planted 10g running for over a year with no filter, and it had a group of pygmy corys (9-10) and Boraras brigittae (12), some snails (the small like Malaysian Livebearing).  No filter, just a heater.

Knowing the water parameters would help us suggest fish.

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September 12, 2016
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Yeah the tank isn't set up yet. The tank will have some plants but I haven't got the substrate or anything really yet so I will have to really just see about the fish when I get there. I will probably be getting the tank this month.

You make another question come to mind. What sort of substrate will work good for this tank because I really like aquasoil but stuff like that is expensive and I really don't want gravel because I haven't touched the stuff in two years so I'd like to keep it that way. Would I be able to do sand with some sort of additive like black flourite sand to add nutrients for the plants? Or is there another way to add nutrients?

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September 12, 2016
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I do not recommend "plant" substrates, unless you intend an aquatic garden of plants with no fish where these expensive substrates might benefit.  I only use fine gravel or sand.  With large plants, one can use substrate fertiliser tabs, but this won't be applicable here with a small tank and small plants.  If it is needed, a liquid comprehensive supplement will be all you need.

Given the likely fish and the tank size, sand seems the best substrate.

I did use Flourite so-called plant substrate once, but it was a complete waste of money.  I still had to use liquid and substrate fertilizers the same as in my sand and gravel tanks, and the plants (same species) were no better.  After two years I tore it down and now have play sand.

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September 13, 2016
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I haven't had a planted tank in awhile so I had totally forgotten about liquid fertilizers. I will definitely be doing sand because I've loved it in my African peacock tank. Will add some pictures of it once its all set up and cycling

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September 13, 2016
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 Just filled up and the filter still works after being dry for maybe a year.

Probably going to be awhile before I get sand and even longer till I get fish but at least its basically set up. 

Needs a heater and plants to help the cycle along. 

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September 13, 2016
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Yes, I always "silent cycle" with live plants.  Easier and safer.

Play Sand works very well, and is the least expensive substrate available.  Don't know where you are, but if in NA, have a look for Quikrete Play Sand at Home Depot or Lowe's.  I now have this in all 8 tanks.

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September 18, 2016
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Yeah I'm not far from you actually. I'm in Eastern Washington and I just got black sand from the lfs and I want to add some random leaves whenever I find some. I'll let them leach a little in a separate container to make sure my water doesn't turn black too fast because I don't like doing major water changes to keep the water to my liking. I hope to find a good stick or two because I don't want to have to buy any and I know bringing the good ones from home would be annoying because I don't have my own car.

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September 27, 2016
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I have forgotten to post in awhile and yesterday I got my fish and they are 4 Tanichthys albonubes which are just to make sure the food gets eaten and they will be going back to the store because they were 40 cents or so each. The main piece is going to be Sawbwa resplendens and I have 4 right now but later maybe this week but possibly next week I will be adding as many as the pet store has because I saw a female and I really want to try and breed which would be nice.IMG_1334.PNGImage Enlarger

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October 15, 2016
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Going to get a trio of Dario dario today because the lfs got 11 in and I hope to get a male and two females. I will post pictures of the tank since I have really moved stuff around a lot and added some Echinodorus 'Reni' yesterday which will hopefully open up and look much better in a week or two.

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October 28, 2016
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