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Cyclocheilichthys Spp.
June 18, 2009
2:01 pm
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Matt
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Garra is on hold so I'll bash on with this genus. These are the ones we have pics for:

C. apogon (Mick's pic):

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C. heteronema (HW's pic):

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Young C. janthochir (Ola Åhlander):

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C. repasson (Mick again):

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Any experiences with these would be mucho useful please gents. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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June 18, 2009
3:46 pm
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the janthochir repasson and apogon need near enough the same conditions for them to be happy neutral water with a decent flow and plenty of food, their temperament is brilliant with no aggression shown by any of these three species.
the heteronema is a different matter, so far since having them they are a very nervous fish only liking small foods such as tubifex, bloodworm and mossie larvae so far but are getting accustomed to some fine pellet food i've been giving them.
this is a very interesting species to observe though.
when hunting for food the barbels come into play, shooting forward like probes they skim the base of the tank till they find something to eat. really neat to watch. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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June 19, 2009
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Are you sure the janthochir is not a chalakkudiensis, Mick? /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" /> /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

June 19, 2009
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no mate definitely a janthochir but i think heiko would argue the point. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
like your style Rahul.

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June 19, 2009
10:42 am
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It must be a new species because chalakkudiensis looks exactly like denisonii according to this! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

Does anyone know the origin of the 'skinhead barb' name for C. apogon?

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June 19, 2009
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the mans a plonker, everything he gets is a new species even the bloody zebra danio. /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" />
Matt i think all the Cyclo's are classed as skinhead barbs,i can see how the name come about though, they are very fleshy over the cranium.

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June 19, 2009
11:28 am
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That's our first lawsuit right there... /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Mick do they do better when kept in groups? Would you describe them as schooling fish?

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June 19, 2009
11:45 am
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yes mate, i only had small shoals of each mainly because of the size they get to.
at the moment i only have janthochir and heteronema in groups of 4, i would like to get more heteronema but they won't be seen in the shops i'm afraid, these 4 that i have were sent to me via Neil at pier aquatics from Nonn Panitvong of which i'm very gratefull, they don't have the beautiful marking like other Cyclo's but they are far more interesting by their habits.
the repasson and apogon went to a lad who is also interested in this species/ genus.

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June 19, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jun 19 2009, 12:11 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's our first lawsuit right there... /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

It had to be Mick /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

June 19, 2009
1:16 pm
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He'll never let them take him alive though. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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June 19, 2009
1:42 pm
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it's good to stir the old wooden spoon lads, haha can't help it lads.
him and axelrod must have come outta the same mould. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

mick
let em sue me aint got nowt anyway. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

June 20, 2009
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Mick, I can't find "plonker" in the dictionary? /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

June 20, 2009
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plaamoo, it only means idiot but it sounds better. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
have'nt you watched only fools and horses Del uses all the time against Rodney.

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June 20, 2009
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Matt, here's a couple of pics of the heteronema mate, i know you have choysso if you don't want to use them thats ok.
this is the same fish believe it or not.
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good innit.

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June 20, 2009
1:08 pm
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Ta Mick we'll definitely use them. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> It looks like quite a small fish?

Plaamoo plonker is an internet-friendly version of ******* *****. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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June 20, 2009
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Thanks guys. I had the gist, just pulling Mick's leg /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> . Haven't seen only fools and horses Mick, don't know if it's on over here? I'll have a look.

I do enjoy watching and reading while you guys go through these species and discuss the details. A wealth of knowledge and experience here!!

June 20, 2009
3:32 pm
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i'm sure the heteronema is the smallest of the Cyclocheilichthys reaching around 4 inch SL, the largest out of my four is roughly 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 inchSL.
the largest of my janthochir is 8 inch SL, they have to be the prettiest of the group gor me anyway.

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June 21, 2009
11:51 am
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QUOTE (plaamoo @ Jun 20 2009, 03:25 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
A wealth of knowledge and experience here!!

I trust you're including yourself in that! Hope you stick around for the gobies as I think you'll be needed. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Cheers for the info Mick; do you think the heteronema are best-kept alone or are they ok with other peaceful stuff?

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June 21, 2009
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hi Matt, they would be great in a cummunity of non aggressive fish, mine are in with P phutonio,gelius and small loaches like Y cruciatus rosy loaches and Nemacheilus ornatus without any trouble but the heteronema are very skitty towards any movement near the tank.

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June 22, 2009
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Do they take dried foods Mick?

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