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Cyprinid Id, Shark?
July 20, 2011
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My lfs has some of these, they aren't labeled as they were given them by their distributor that went out of business. They have a bit of green along the lateral line and only pick on each other. They don't even acknowledge the her fish in the tank.

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July 20, 2011
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Hi Sharkdude , possibly Henicorhynchus Lobatus from Thailand ?

July 20, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jul 20 2011, 03:19 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Sharkdude , possibly Henicorhynchus Lobatus from Thailand ?


Very close...I think the fish in the picture is not as tall as that one. Discherodontus halei is one I found while researching which I have not confirmed.

I actually posted this same ID on another forum but no confirmed answer.

July 21, 2011
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Hmm thought I had a pic of D. halei but nope, just a habitat shot. The image by JJ on Fishbase is inconclusive, too.

Andy, shouldn't H. lobatus have dark spots on the upper part of the body?

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July 21, 2011
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http://www.seriouslyfish.com/f.....ums/upload...-1307001610.jpg

If I may be so bold as to show one of my pics of D.halei , there are more pics on the thread Discherodontus halei 2 !

Matt I dunno about the spots on H.lobatus , I'm not certain but reasonably convinced Sharkdudes fish is a Henicorhynchus lobatus ?

July 21, 2011
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http://home.kku.ac.th/pracha/F.....hes%20in%2...%20River-28.htm

H. lobatus ^

July 21, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jul 21 2011, 01:43 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>

H. lobatus ^

I think I better go back and get better pictures. I took that one with my phone. Next time I'll be sure to use my camera. I'm not entirely convinced of th H.lobatus because of its mouth, it doesn't seem as pointy as my fish.

July 22, 2011
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If you get a close look at your fish I wouldn't mind betting it has an underslung mouth ?

Could perhaps do with another pic or two /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

July 23, 2011
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Of the Henicorhynchus's I think yours seems closest to Lobatus ,Caudimaculatus is similar but has a black blotch on the caudal base !

If yours is indeed H.lobatus it apparently attains a size of 10 cms !

Whilst on the subject of Henicorhynchus ,I'd love to find a nice group of H.lineatus /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

July 24, 2011
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Here are some better pics. You where right Andy the do have under slung mouths. They also have faint spots in the middle of their body and at the caudle. The spots almost disappeared once i started taking pics howver.

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July 24, 2011
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Whoa /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> nice pics , I'd deffinitely say Heicorhynchus though , I'll guess Lobatus though Caudimaculatus is a possibility ?

How many did you get Sharkdude , and where did you get them from ?

July 24, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jul 24 2011, 05:40 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoa /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> nice pics , I'd deffinitely say Heicorhynchus though , I'll guess Lobatus though Caudimaculatus is a possibility ?

How many did you get Sharkdude , and where did you get them from ?


I haven't gotten any yet. I'm doing my research first. My lfs got them from one of his distributors who went out of business.

July 24, 2011
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I can't find anything about H.Caudimaculatus on Google.....

July 25, 2011
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Yeah good news pics sharkdude and thanks for linking that thread Andy. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

According to Rainboth H. caudimaculatus should have a large dark spot on the caudal peduncle and like all species in the genus feeds by grazing algae, phytoplankton, etc. from the substrate. Might H. siamensis be a possibility too?

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July 25, 2011
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Hi Matt, personally I'd rule out Siamensis as it looks too chunky ?

July 25, 2011
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Your not from the Gt Manchester area are you Sharkdude ? /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

July 25, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jul 25 2011, 11:14 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your not from the Gt Manchester area are you Sharkdude ? /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />


Haha, no I'm from NE Ohio.

July 26, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jul 25 2011, 04:12 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Matt, personally I'd rule out Siamensis as it looks too chunky ?

I dare not question your authority on random silvery fishes Andy. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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July 26, 2011
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Okay so are we going with H.Lobatus or is it possibly somthing else?

July 27, 2011
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I'd prefer to say going with Henicorhynchus sp/ possibly H.lobatus ?

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