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Dario Dario - Scarlet Badis
April 4, 2009
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Richy
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These look ideal to finish off my shrimp tank /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Does any one have personal experience with them? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/p.....file.php?g...dario&id=41

Tank is an Aquaone ar320 (28 litres)
sand and roman gravel
6 x cory similis
3 Tylomelania snails (pics will be added to my thread soon /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> )
Alot of shrimps, some new shrimplets too, 4-5mm long.
sponge filter
driftwood and lots of java summit (got some off Geordie John and it wont stop growing lol)
PH7.2
hardness is 4-5 last time i checked.

From what i've read it seems ok, anyone have other thoughts?
How big are their mouths is 1 question i'm wondering lol
I'm not planning on breeding them but you never say never lol
2 pair for this tank?? I may get more for another tank if i like them as much as some photo's i've seen (males) I know the females are dull /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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April 4, 2009
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Hey Richy

1 male to every 2 females is the ideal ratio for the Scarlet Badis.

I looked after a pair of these fish, for a fellow Ryedale A.S. member, for several weeks. They were a little 'nervy' and loved the security of pieces of broken ceramic plant pot, that formed small caves, sunk into the gravel. They had good appetities and took small pieces of flake and granular foods plus live brine shrimp.

They never bothered the adult guppies, resident in this tank, but advise that you seek advice from Mad Duff or Keith as to whether they would pose a danger to the shrimplets - creatures I know (shame on me) very little about.

Regards David

April 4, 2009
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Richy, Andy rush had his in a very well planted tank, they were visible through the crypt's stay close to the bottom nearly all the time, in the case of eating shrimplets i would imagine they'll snag a few but there still will be survivors.
i think they should like your tank very well mate.

mick

April 4, 2009
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Thanks David and Mick for the quick replies /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I only feed brineshrimp+omega3, brineshrimp+enriched garlic , baby brineshrimp and Hikari shrimp pellets to the tank on alternate days, mainly for the cories but i'm sure they'd eat any of them /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
1-3 ratio goes against what i read so far but i understand why you say this so i'll take this into consideration before i buy, ty /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Baby shrimps, well they'll be getting their own species tanks soon so it will only be the ones which have unfortunatley cross bred which will be there and they WON'T stop breeding so i'm not too worried as i've been giving them away free anyway /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Caves etc i can sort out no problem /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Mick, yes i'd imagine a few shrimplets will dissapear but its ok although as said, i'd rather give them away for free /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
David, its no shame that you don't know alot about shrimps, thats why forums like SF is here, for us all to share and learn our knowledge /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> I think your monthly mag needs to be publicised more too /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

From what you have both said, i feel they'll not be suitable for my normal community tank so i'll stick to just having some in the small shrimp/cory similis/ snail tank /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Too much flow etc as i have 2 externals on a 30" tank and i have a VERY grumpy Male CT fighter lol

Richy

April 7, 2009
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Hey Richy

Hope all goes okay with your Scarlet Badis project.

Yes we are currently looking at more advertiement opportunities for The Aquarium Gazette.

Regards David

April 7, 2009
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Be aware that males are very aggressive towards each other and females, so lots of plants is a must.

April 7, 2009
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David, were you at Redby show on Sunday gone, i heard a rumour you were and i was there too. I also heard a late rumour Keith had been in but i didnt see him either lol. I didnt buy anything but i did win a £25 gift voucher for Maidenhead Aquatics, ooh and a tub of goldfish food which had NO use to me so i gave it away lol

Oaken, i can move some newley planted ones over if i think i need more.
I ordered 6 fish so, 2 m 4 fem in the same tank? Or 1 male, 2 fem in both tanks? they both can be heavily planted.
I'm setting up other tanks with mature water and filters for the shrimps so i can easily re house them anyway temporarily if need be /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Yes, i'd imagine they may take baby shrimp but i'll be selective of the tanks they go in /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Thanks

Richy /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

April 7, 2009
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P.S.S. i should be getting them on thursday evening so pics will follow when settled in /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />)

April 8, 2009
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QUOTE (Richy @ Apr 8 2009, 01:37 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oaken, i can move some newley planted ones over if i think i need more.
I ordered 6 fish so, 2 m 4 fem in the same tank? Or 1 male, 2 fem in both tanks? they both can be heavily planted.
I'm setting up other tanks with mature water and filters for the shrimps so i can easily re house them anyway temporarily if need be /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Yes, i'd imagine they may take baby shrimp but i'll be selective of the tanks they go in /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Thanks

Richy /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Two males or not depends on the tank size if you ask me, if its a 28 litre tank I wouldn't keep two males in there, so rather split them up.

Btw, have you specifically ordered 4 females? Just asking because females are usually rare.

April 8, 2009
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Hey Richy

Yes I was at Redby.

I was talking with Keith on the morning. Keith's wife, Dawn, was helping Steve with the Show paperwork.

I was judging fish in the show hall and had a wonderful time. Sue, my sister, was sat in the auction with Stella Cowan. Sue has not been wonderful, health wise, for several weeks so I was allowed to sign and seal the cards so that we could make our way home soon after judging was over.

Are you coming down to Ryedale on the 26th?

Regards David

April 8, 2009
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QUOTE (oaken @ Apr 8 2009, 02:05 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two males or not depends on the tank size if you ask me, if its a 28 litre tank I wouldn't keep two males in there, so rather split them up.

Btw, have you specifically ordered 4 females? Just asking because females are usually rare.


I ordered 25 mixed m/f for the shop but wont know what turns up until i call in on thursday teatime /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> I'll keep you informed but i have ordered 6 for myself and will collect the same day and take the hit myself if any dies as it's not shop policy to get new stock on the same day of arrival.

April 8, 2009
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QUOTE (David Marshall @ Apr 8 2009, 10:51 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Richy

Yes I was at Redby.

I was talking with Keith on the morning. Keith's wife, Dawn, was helping Steve with the Show paperwork.

I was judging fish in the show hall and had a wonderful time. Sue, my sister, was sat in the auction with Stella Cowan. Sue has not been wonderful, health wise, for several weeks so I was allowed to sign and seal the cards so that we could make our way home soon after judging was over.

Are you coming down to Ryedale on the 26th?

Regards David

Hi, i think i may have been standing at the back beside them both lol. I don't think i'll be at rydale but most probably will go to the next one on the west coast for catfish. 2 of my friends will be going and i'll try and drag Keith along if he's not working lol My friends are after some Barbatus sp /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

April 9, 2009
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Got 6 tonight and i've opted to put then in a 47litre tank with the misc cross bred shrimp for now as it's right beside my laptop and i can monitor more closley. There is amass of fern in there and they have lots of room to hide, BUT.......... they're more concerned about chasing the shrimps grr lol Shrimps are faster though /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
Too early to say as they only been in the tank about 30 mins but i think i might have 2 females, 4 males. I'm going to try them on a bit of frozen bcuk babybrine shrimp and see what happens /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> I'll get photo's when they settle in better but i can see some lovely colours on pressumed males showing already /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
I think i might have to have just a pair in the 28litre tank as Oaken suggested (knowledgebase does say 2 pair though) but i want to monitor the way the react with the shrimps before i put them in, if there is definatly females.
Out of the 25 which came in, i think, not 100% sure but there may have been about 6 females. The fish came in at about 1cm-1.5cm long excluding the tail.
Tank is at 22.5C but no heater but no heater, shrimps are breeding well and happy but should i pop a heater in for the Dario's? I'm not sure how cool it gets during the night.
Any other feedback is more than welcomed and thanks in advance /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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April 10, 2009
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Dario likes cool temperatures so they'll be fine without a heater.

Regarding their aggressiveness I can say that I have a pair of the less aggressive Dario hysginon right now in an 18 litre tank (40x20x22) and the male is more or less constantly showing off/chasing the female. The tank is stuffed with moss though so she does okay.

April 30, 2009
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Thanks for the replies and apologies for the delay but i've had nightmares trying to get a good photo, and i still havent suceeded so here's the best of what i captured /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

Under lowish light, arcadia arcpod 11w

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different fish
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Male moved to the aquastart320, this is the true colours i see but photo quality is poor /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> I still havent got a decent shot of the alledged "female" yet. The ones i have captured arn't worth even posting but i will if i get one. Try and i'magine the above photo's with the below colours
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See, its a crap photo lol /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

My findings over the last few weeks,
My males seem to be adaptable towards alot of foods, flake, frozen baby brineshrimp, dry cyclop-eeze (from my reef days) frozen brineshrimp+omega 3 but they nearly choked on it so havent used it again.
Females/subdominant males seem to be very fussy and they tend to go for live brineshrimp.
As of yet, i'm undecided to exactly how many females i have, pretty sure I have one but sceptical about the others.
It's hard trying to photograph these buggers when they chasing live food as they're stop/start/stop/start pretty fast.
I have noticed the male which i put in the other tank has grown considerably compared to the others i left behind, so has the "alleged" female and there has been no aggression and i've seen them side by side many times, no hassle /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />
I have to say though, as Matt say's in their profile, VERY MUCH underrated fish indeed and I have no complaints about getting them /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Yes they have took some of my baby shrimps, not many though but i was prewarned..

April 30, 2009
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Very cool indeed Richy they look in cracking shape. You've also inspired me to update the Badidae profiles soon as I have some lovely pics of the rarer species to add. /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

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