LOGIN

RSS Facebook Twitter YouTube
GLOSSARY       

SEARCHGLOSSARY

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

PROFILESEARCH

Avatar

Please consider registering
guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —




— Match —





— Forum Options —





 

Minimum search word length is 4 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
Devario sp. 'blood red giant'
October 15, 2013
8:13 pm
Avatar
BillT
Eugene, Oregon
Veteran
Forum Posts: 229
Member Since:
September 10, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Dennis, did you see the new Wetspot's devario? I'm drooling… not so much the $, but I really have no space for them now……

 

Are you referring to their "Burmese Blood Red Giant Danio" Devario?

I have been tempted to go up to Portland just to check it out.

Sadly also no current room for any of these.

 

I do have 6 of their Devario assamensis in a 20G. These are really nice fish. They like to be close to each other.

Bill Trevarrow [email protected]
October 15, 2013
8:50 pm
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yep, them.

I kept a group of no-brand Giant Danios which happened to have reddish fins for a number of years... was really enjoyable... but Blood Red seem much nicer.

But not the kind of fish one can hope that others will get to breed and spread.... :(

October 16, 2013
1:53 am
Avatar
BallAquatics
Tremont City Ohio, USA pop.640
Member
Forum Posts: 96
Member Since:
May 26, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

BillT said

Sadly also no current room for any of these.

I do have 6 of their Devario assamensis in a 20G.

Well it looks like we're all in the same boat, no room.  I just figured it was a fanciful name in hopes of selling more fish.

Those Devario assamensis are nice fish.  Be sure to keep them cool.  I had a nice group that I lost to the summer heat a few years back.

Talking of new fish, I picked up a nice group of Devario acrostomus at the club auction last week. http://www.columbusfishclub.or.....n_fall.php

Dennis

October 16, 2013
2:09 am
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Nay, look at their photo, it does seem to be a new species, much better than "red-finned" version of common "giant danio".

This is roughly what I had: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Devario_aequipinnatus.JPGImage Enlarger

(died out after 8 or 9 years :( ).

This is the new Wetspot fish: http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/TheWetSpotTropicalFish/Cyprinids/DevariospBurmeseBloodRedGiantDanio.jpgImage Enlarger

Too bad... I was kind of hoping you get and breed them :(

October 16, 2013
3:36 am
Avatar
BallAquatics
Tremont City Ohio, USA pop.640
Member
Forum Posts: 96
Member Since:
May 26, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Well never say never, when I get through all the fish I have on hand, I'll be looking for something new.  =;-)

I think the Devario aequipinnatus I'm currently working with have very red fins.

1024x543_001.jpgImage Enlarger

800x639_001.jpgImage Enlarger

I was thinking of sending that WetSpot photo to Pete to see what he though they were.....  So many Danios, so little time. lol

Perhaps Matt will be kind enough to split these last few posts over to a new thread since we've totally managed to hijack this one with our Danionin ramblings.

Dennis

October 16, 2013
6:46 am
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yes, my bad, sorry.

Your D.aequipinnatus is exactly the fish I had... I bought them in Petland (local chain store) for $1 apiece, and then never saw them again, always uncolored fins. :(

October 16, 2013
11:47 am
Avatar
Matt
Málaga, Spain
Admin
Forum Posts: 8239
Member Since:
June 13, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

BallAquatics said
Perhaps Matt will be kind enough to split these last few posts over to a new thread since we've totally managed to hijack this one with our Danionin ramblings.

Dennis

Hehe, consider it done Dennis!

This red-finned fish is very reminiscent of D. devario...

Cake or death?
October 16, 2013
2:43 pm
Avatar
BallAquatics
Tremont City Ohio, USA pop.640
Member
Forum Posts: 96
Member Since:
May 26, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Thank you Matt. You know us fish geeks, once we get started no telling where we'll end up!

Matt said

This red-finned fish is very reminiscent of D. devario...

Nothing against the WetSpot as I've purchased and received some great fish from them in the past, but their photos and descriptions are often not very comforting or accurate.....

Danio sp. "Kyathit"
Daniokyathit.jpgImage Enlarger

 

Brachydanio sp. "Fire Ring"
BrachydaniospFireRing.jpgImage Enlarger

Devario assamensis "Assam Danio"
Devarioassamensis_zps02bf16a7.jpgImage Enlarger

Dennis

October 16, 2013
4:03 pm
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Not just danios, loaches are routinely mislabeled and I'm at a point of being afraid to order from them. I'd have ordered the "Fire Ring"'s but I don't know if the fish matches the photo... :(

October 16, 2013
4:41 pm
Avatar
Plaamoo
Bellingham, Washington U.S.A.
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1257
Member Since:
March 14, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

My LFS gets most of their fish from them and the mistaken identities are rampant. They often get mixed sp. so they obviously aren't good at keeping them separate. I've seen rhinogobius leavelii & zhouii in the duospilus tank. The paros are always wrong.

October 16, 2013
6:31 pm
Avatar
andy rushworth
Gr Manchester , England .
Member
Forum Posts: 93
Member Since:
June 25, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hi Mike , the new Wet Spot fish I have seen being sold as Chrysotaeniatus  { spelling } but I think it represents D. annandalei , Annandalei is one of the most Beautiful of the Devario's and it does have a look of Devario Devario but is more elongate !

 

DevariospBurmeseBloodRedGiantDanio.jpgImage Enlarger

October 16, 2013
6:50 pm
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Sorry Andy, not sure which listing you are talking about...cannot find it...link?...

More Wetspot fun: Here is an amazing Australian 2-dorsal Cyprinid

October 16, 2013
7:01 pm
Avatar
andy rushworth
Gr Manchester , England .
Member
Forum Posts: 93
Member Since:
June 25, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hi Mike ,Ive added pic of the fish I believe to be Annandalei !

 

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y410/TheWetSpotTropicalFish/Cyprinids/DevariospBurmeseBloodRedGiantDanio.jpgImage Enlarger

October 16, 2013
7:02 pm
Avatar
BallAquatics
Tremont City Ohio, USA pop.640
Member
Forum Posts: 96
Member Since:
May 26, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Not to put him on the spot or anything, as doing fish ID's from an Internet photo can be almost impossible, but I sent the WetSpot photo and AquaBid link to Pete and this was his reply.....

I think this is a regina. We caught them with varying degrees of colour. Near the Myanmar border (albeit separated by quite a large river) in S. Thailand we caught some real beauties – very red particularly on the back and the dorsal fin. 

It would certainly be nice if the exporters would drop the flowery names.  I think most of us interested in Danionins would be more interested if the fish were properly ID'ed with a location.  Then even if they are NOT a new fish, you would know what you actually have. Something like all the varieties of Pelvicachromis taeniatus, ("Bipindi", "Kienke", "Lokundje", "Makoure", etc, etc).  Perhaps in a world driven by monetary gains it's simply too much to ask for.

Dennis

October 16, 2013
7:58 pm
Avatar
BallAquatics
Tremont City Ohio, USA pop.640
Member
Forum Posts: 96
Member Since:
May 26, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

mikev said
I'd have ordered the "Fire Ring"'s but I don't know if the fish matches the photo... :(

I felt the same and purchased a dozen from Tom & Nevin over on http://aquariumfish.net/catalo.....e.htm#4748  Each time I've purchased from them I've received young healthy fish, no complaints.  Shipping is reasonable too.

Dennis

October 16, 2013
8:02 pm
Avatar
Plaamoo
Bellingham, Washington U.S.A.
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1257
Member Since:
March 14, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Too much to ask for IMO Dennis. It's not only the exporters at fault but also the importers and even fishkeepers. So many ignore proper names in favor of the sexier names. Some folks seem to prefer confusion. :)

October 16, 2013
9:18 pm
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

BallAquatics said

mikev said
I'd have ordered the "Fire Ring"'s but I don't know if the fish matches the photo... :(

I felt the same and purchased a dozen from Tom & Nevin over on http://aquariumfish.net/catalo.....e.htm#4748  Each time I've purchased from them I've received young healthy fish, no complaints.  Shipping is reasonable too.

Dennis

Thanks, Dennis!

Funny .. I knew of this site but never realized they carried types of fish I care about (menu structure)... actually they do! Yeah, this looks good. Now I need to see if I can manage some space... maybe doable. I guess you are happy with yours? Fins are properly red? (I've seen different strains)

----

as for naming problems... everyone makes mistakes, actually I saw a couple on Tom/Nevin site right aay... but Wetspot is unwilling to correct even when told.

October 16, 2013
11:37 pm
Avatar
BallAquatics
Tremont City Ohio, USA pop.640
Member
Forum Posts: 96
Member Since:
May 26, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

mikev said
I guess you are happy with yours? Fins are properly red? (I've seen different strains)

I'm happy with them.  They are showing very good color especially when you consider they are not on a proper substrate.  When they came in, I just threw them into a bare-bottom 15 which is sitting right in front of the tank the Devario xyrops spawned in, (the main reason I couldn't get any decent photos of the xyrops).

Just a couple quick photos for your approval.  Not very good quality I'm afraid, but you can see the redness of the fins.  They should look very nice indeed in a properly planted tank with a dark substrate.

1024x768_spot_001.jpgImage Enlarger

1024x768_spot_002.jpgImage Enlarger

I also have a couple of very nice males that BillT sent to me last spring.

Dennis

October 17, 2013
1:11 am
Avatar
mikev
NYC
Community Helper
Forum Posts: 1134
Member Since:
January 11, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yes, look pretty good.... ty!

October 17, 2013
3:16 am
Avatar
BillT
Eugene, Oregon
Veteran
Forum Posts: 229
Member Since:
September 10, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

mikev said
I'd have ordered the "Fire Ring"'s but I don't know if the fish matches the photo… :(

I am pretty sure that the Wet Spot "fire Ring"'s are the same. I have a friend who has a fish store in town who gets his Danios from them and he has them also.

 

Too much to ask for IMO Dennis. It's not only the exporters at fault but also the importers and even fishkeepers. So many ignore proper names in favor of the sexier names. Some folks seem to prefer confusion. :)

I don't think it is entirely a result of bad intent.

My take on the Wet Spot is that these people are not Danio experts. I don't know about their knowledge of other kinds of fish. The Wet Spot, owner who I know, is a cichlid expert. The Wet Spot is basically the retail version of the Cichlid Exchange which originally a cichlid wholesaler. The people working there who deal with the fish when they come in are most likely not Danio experts either and they just take the names provided by the suppliers unless they know different. I have several times informed them of various corrections which they were glad to make once they had confirmed the fish's identity, but then when they get a new version of the same fish from their supplier, the name has reverted back to the wrong one. I have also seen the same thing happen at local retail stores but with less interest in getting the name right. As a result, I would usually place the blame for wrong names on somewhere further up the supply chain. Whomever does this may be ignorant but is probably thinking a "new" or "different" fish will sell better, rather than it just pissing people off. Who knows? They may be gaining more in sales than they are hurt but a few knowledgeable people avoiding they products.

This thing used to aggregate me a lot, but now I just think of it as something that comes with the supply chain system as it is today. I try to see a fish or at least picture before I buy it.

 

Here is one of the fish I got that came from the Wet Spot, which I am assuming is a Devario assamensis The colors can change over time. Could be wrong, I am not as good on Devarios as Danios.

IMG_2664.jpgImage Enlarger

 

Bill Trevarrow [email protected]
Forum Timezone: Europe/Paris

Most Users Ever Online: 246

Currently Online:
1 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Devices in use: Desktop (1)

Top Posters:

Stefan: 1567

Plaamoo: 1257

mikev: 1134

Malti: 1099

Mark Duffill: 1012

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 0

Members: 30511

Moderators: 0

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 4

Forums: 10

Topics: 4603

Posts: 36641

Newest Members: dg, Jamieson22, FraziersAquarium, world renowned, granamyr

Administrators: dunc: 1323, Matt: 8239