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Distichodus decemmaculatus or Distichodus noboli experiences?
August 26, 2012
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I wondered if anyone can shed light on how either of these behave in groups and what sort of tankmates they are good with? Both are availble to order in the UK at the moment, but there is so little info out there besides fishbase stating 7cm TL and 19cm TL respectively.

I came across a single thread on a different forum from a few years back that suggests the Dwarf Distichodus might well be rather social (like Distichodus affinis to some extent, again available from the same source) compared to its D. lusosso and sexfascioltus "cousins." 

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August 26, 2012
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About oooh ten years ago i had both of those fish in a tank at the same time ,they were both what I'd class as easy none problematic fish ,they'd eat a nomal varied diet frozen/dry and both were none aggresive ,I had eight Decemmaculata and four Noboli ,the Noboli were very similar to Affiinis but if viewed after lights out they had a beautiful crimson cross on their bodies from nose to caudal and dorsal to ventral very odd but very nice ! if you are worried all I can say is in my experience they were both very nice gentle fish ,oh and quite beautiful too !

August 28, 2012
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Thanks for your input Andy, two days on and I'm still struggling to find much out there on either.

 

In the meantime, I took a gamble and ordered 6 demmaculatus, but held off on noboli because of their potential size but also no idea if there were social like affinis or potentially evil like lusosso/sexfasciolatus. If it was not such a gamble, I would have gone straight out and ordered 10 of the Dwarfs, but their price and unknown behaviour made me be restrained. My initial hope is that these might be good calm mannered fish (both general and eating habits) that can act as dithers for 25 Pareutropius buffei, but if they prove to be a little unsuitable, I have a second chance that they might work well in my other African tank containing teenage Ctenopoma acutirostre.

It is going to be like a fish themed Xmas later this week if all goes well, I have 4 African species on order, but wholesale orders do not always work out so I'm trying to stay calm! :D

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August 29, 2012
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andy rushworth said
About oooh ten years ago i had both of those fish in a tank at the same time ,they were both what I'd class as easy none problematic fish ,they'd eat a nomal varied diet frozen/dry and both were none aggresive.

 

well if memory serves Andrew you were the only person in our peer group at that time who was able to keep these fish alive and well.

Remind my memory but did somebody not get a spawning from some of yours?

August 29, 2012
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Hi Paul ,Mick Wright had a couple off me with intentions of spawning but had no success ,Paul I remember you getting yours from Dave's/BAS I think Chad had some too , I think yours were bigger on import so possibly harder to acclimatise i.e. more set in their ways ? I got mine off Robin when he opened his shop in Huddersfield probably a year or two later than you had yours ? in fact I never expected to see them, I can only recall your batch and mine, quite a rarity ?

 

NBTG its a shame you didn't manage to get the Noboli ,I don't think they get huge, 4" or so ? good luck with your Decemmac's !

August 29, 2012
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Wow, that is some way off the fishbase size for noboli, which states 19cm TL if I recall rightly! I should not be too surprised, considering hobby specimens of lusosso and sexfasciolatus do well to reach 40cm, half the size of wilds.

While I'm really looking forward to hopefully picking up all of my order in less than 40 hours time, I wish I had spotted your initial reply before ordering, we might have got to this point in time for me to have perhaps chosen the noboli over the common Pareutropius.

It is going to be quite an emotional day, picking up these Africans all being well, but at the same time saying goodbye to tank raised Steatocranus that have taken an age to reach a decent size because of the combined 2nd/3rd brood size of ~50 that have made it to adulthood. I'm still very torn as to whether to keep back a few to hopefully get a bonded pair, their dad who died back in February in a semi tank wipeout was my favourite fish, part of me would love to see at least some of his legacy live on... But at the same time, each time mum and dad spawned in a community Rio240, I lost tankmates through their fierce protection of the young.

I shall try and report back with photos/videos once they have settled in a little, presuming they arrive from NHA wholesalers ok . :)

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August 30, 2012
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this is an interesting thread developing and I'd be really interested in your progress with the fish NOTG.

 

Andy - wasn't aware yours were from a different supply. Never knew Robin ever got any Africans in

August 30, 2012
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When he had that establishment in Huddersfield he had quite a lot of African stuff !

September 1, 2012
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Bit of a sad update to this thread...

I picked up my order yesterday, the only thing that did not come in was 1 Distichodus. They had such faint markings it looked as if the 4 smaller ones could be adult demmaculatus, with perhaps 1 female affinis mixed in with them. Well they coloured up at home in the Rio240, showing ~12 vertical bars against a silvery green background, I have a horrible feeling I have ended up with 5 fiesty Distichdus fasciolatus that will reach ~30cm :/

While species can be sometimes mixed up at wholesalers, it bags the question how do they get away with passing a fiesty tankbuster for a social smallish characin with very different markings. I cannot blame the fish store, these fish literally arrived from the wholesalers ~45 minutes before me, but I can forsee having to give these away for free (perhaps with the exception of 1, but even that could be bad news in my 5x2x2) and more than likely to a LFS... I cannot imagine anyine touching these with a barge pole.

As much as this species purchase appears to have been a bad one, there were some gems in my order: 25x Pareutropius cf. mandervillei; 10x Microsynodontis cf. polli; 5x Euchilichthys cf. guentheri (listed as "Suckermouth African", could have been a whole range of things, may need to thin these out in my 5x2x2 after quarantine).

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September 2, 2012
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Damn that a shame mate Yell it's a pain when you've built your hopes up and get let down ,don't know too much about D.fasciolatus ,but they are quite rarely seen so might be worth having a go ,you might find you enjoy them ,they aren't unattractive ! at least you got some microsyno's fantastic fish to keep ,very interesting and not too commonly seen either !

Is the little odd Disti definitely Affinis ,only Noboli look quite similar when small ?

Sounds a nice combination of African fishes ! some Barbus Fasciolatus would look nice as dither fish Smile ?

September 4, 2012
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The Distichodus have coloured up nicely (greeen/gold with ~12 vertical stripes) and will look quite nice when not covered in tatty fins and flank marks, but I'm not even sure if one fiesty 30cm characin would be ok in my African 5x2x2 long term. I'm awaiting advice from the fish shop where they came from, if they can return them to the wholesalers for credit, I will return at least 4 of the 5 and come away with shop tank stock instead. Otherewise these will probably have to be simply given to a local store.

Just to confirm, all 5 appear to be the same species, 4 at ~7cm SL and a larger one at ~12cm SL (this larger one looked like affinis in the store but has coloured the same as the smaller ones).

The Pareutropius cf. mandervillei are doing great with the Microsynodontis, which could be polli or batesii depending upon whether the long spade tail fin is clear or has flecks in it. I lost two "debauwie" over the weekend, which had open wounds on their flanks, while one Microsyno was dead upon getting home. But they are now all eating in their QT, the plan is to add them to my peaceful 48x12x15 tank (Phecogrammus nigropterus; Nannostomus beckfordi; Synodontis congica; Microsynodontis sp.1 and polli; Steatocranus tinanti [will be moved as they grow bigger, still slender ~6/4.5cm SL]).

Funny you should mention Barbus fasciolatus, I found a store that regular stocks them and I was amazed by their looks when seeing this species for the first time in the flash! The only thing that held me back was the price, just under £5 each, but they would would really well in the 48x12x15 setup.

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