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Ebjds - No Growth?
February 28, 2009
7:21 pm
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dunc
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Well, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that these guys just aren't growing.

I've heard in a few places that there's trouble with their growth. I've tried them on a high protein diet, tried them on 3 feeds/day of different frozen food, tried them on african cichlid pellets and various "green" frozen foods.. but they just don't want to get bigger. It's not like they're not eating - they munch literally everything.

It's odd because for the first ~3 months or so of keeping them they absolutely shot up from the little nippers I bought them as.

There seems to be little conclusive information about them.. or at least, I can't find anyone. Anybody able to help?

February 28, 2009
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I'm pretty sure they're naturally-stunted dood. How big are they now? Pics may help too. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

Cake or death?
March 1, 2009
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Will get some pics this evening. The biggest is maybe 5" TL, the rest 1 to 2 inches smaller.

March 4, 2009
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Images attached.

Excuse the mess and the one with fish with gaping jaws - he just practically swallowed a whole mussel.. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Can also see the smallest fish's poor eye which got battered while I was on holiday /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> I presume he smashed it off a rock as that's the tank's only decoration.

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March 4, 2009
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So what the truth about these then, are they hybrids or natural occuring variants /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

Could these be electric blue/normal JD crosses Dunc? which could explain their stunted growth.

March 4, 2009
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I hate to ask the "ignorant but long time hobbiest" question here, but ,hey, why break my record? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> So here goes: how about a bigger aquarium? maybe they feel crowded and the stress is slowing them down?? /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

I wonder if they will mature , but be small? then you could market them as Mini Me ebJd's!
Very stunningly beautiful fish! /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

March 4, 2009
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Mark I think the general consensus is they're a natural genetic mutation but are possibly now being mass-produced for the trade. See previous discussion here. /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

Dunc mate you seem to have a bit of blue-green algae which usually signifies high nitrates. If this is the case maybe that's what's slowing them down?

Cake or death?
March 4, 2009
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Well, I do water changes on a weekly basis - usually 33% or so. Every WC involves removing every single rock in the tank and cleaning it individually then mixing up the gravel to remove the algae from that then netting out as much of the free-floating algae as I can.

I had your Geophagus sp. in the conservatory too, generally on the same diet as the EBJDs and they grew incredibly quick. Similar algae problems with those.

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