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Electric Blue Rams
May 26, 2009
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Matt
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Opinions? I'm not saying... /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

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May 26, 2009
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I think the classic "ram" is prettier than these new electrics (same opinion for the jack dempsey and the "blue dempsey"). /sleep.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="-_-" border="0" alt="sleep.gif" />

May 26, 2009
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any idea how they have got them that colour?

May 26, 2009
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I don't like them and agree with Francistrus - Classic Rams much nicer

May 27, 2009
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Looks like a dyed or colour fed job? The electric blue Asian Parrot cichlids can arrive with colour as bright as this but, after about 4 months, this starts to fade and you are, 2 months or so down the line, left with a plain, but beautiful, orange fish.

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May 27, 2009
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i've gotta agree with David here, either dyed or colourfed.

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May 27, 2009
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yup, have to agree with you all, the normal are better looking and these do looked dyed, be interesting to find out if they are or not?

May 28, 2009
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QUOTE (francistrus @ May 26 2009, 06:35 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the classic "ram" is prettier than these new electrics (same opinion for the jack dempsey and the "blue dempsey"). /sleep.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="-_-" border="0" alt="sleep.gif" />

Hola Francisco, as far as we know the blue dempsey is naturally-occuring. Have a read of posts 5-10 in this thread. Can't say the same for these rams obviously, the text accompanying the image just says they are a "new sport". Hmmm....

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May 28, 2009
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Matt, you´re right:The blue Dempsey´s origin

May 29, 2009
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They look like they're infected with the bacterium that causes guanine deposition in the scales of characins.

May 30, 2009
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I've red that the parents of the first blue dempseys were hybrids between Paratheraps synspilus, Parachromis managuensis and Rocio octofasciata... ??

June 3, 2009
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QUOTE (David Marshall @ May 27 2009, 02:06 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like a dyed or colour fed job? The electric blue Asian Parrot cichlids can arrive with colour as bright as this but, after about 4 months, this starts to fade and you are, 2 months or so down the line, left with a plain, but beautiful, orange fish.

Regards David

/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> cute as usual

June 3, 2009
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Hey Matt, I think the natural are prettier. In fact, what's the buzz with having electric blue? So many types of fish have been bred for this (gouramis for instance), and I dont "get it". I love the patterns on the regular rams, and ditto for dwarf gouramis. You lose all that beautiful spawning flash too. My kribs just turned all kinds of blue and purple and flashed each other , after the partial water change today. Wouldnt trade that for plain blue!

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QUOTE (retro_gk @ May 29 2009, 03:32 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
They look like they're infected with the bacterium that causes guanine deposition in the scales of characins.

Woah, interesting suggestion. Is that kind of thing happening in the trade already? /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> Reva in my opinion some people like the 'electric blue', 'flame red', 'lightning-bolt double-monkey' kind of fish so they can say to their visitors "it's not just a gourami, it's a LIGHTNING-BOLT DOUBLE-MONKEY (etc.) gourami", presumably accompanied by a thumbs-up sign and a cheesy grin; hence they sell. Either that or they're partially-blind as the natural form is a lovely-looking fish no? /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

Ps- any opinions expressed in this post are entirely related to Cruzcampo. (hic).

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June 4, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jun 4 2009, 07:44 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that kind of thing happening in the trade already?


I came across something last year that suggests there is active research in this phenomenon with an eye on commercial applications.

While the fish does not appear dyed, the colour appears too even/bright to be the result of selective breeding.

June 4, 2009
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June 5, 2009
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Anyone else think they're more altispinosa than ramirezi?

June 5, 2009
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Hmm not sure. They're definitely longer in the body than wild ramirezi but I've seen exactly the same shape in farm-bred fish, especially the 'gold' form.

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June 5, 2009
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id agree with matt, ramirezi but far from the 'proper' shape of the wilds but most from asia etc are like this now. colour is horrendous, looks completely fake and artificial but i suppose thats the point.

June 7, 2009
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What makes you think there is some altispinosa in there Rahul? Do you think they might be hybrids?

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