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Esomus Species
April 22, 2009
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Matt
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Ok back on with the knowledge base after a wee break to scribble some nonsense for David. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Does anyone have any experience with members of this genus to share?

Edit - here's a pic of E. metallicus for confirmation too.

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April 22, 2009
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Hi Matt , I'm not really up on these but it could be ? it also has a look of E.danrica ?

April 22, 2009
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I thought that E. metallicus had a thinner lateral stripe and the line continued after the aye round onto the mouth, saying that though from the E. danricus that I have had they had a wider darker stripe than that.

They ones I had were very active but I did have problems with the nipping fins, you could tell it was these that did it as well because the nips were square in shape. Very similar care wise to Inlecypris in my experiance.

April 22, 2009
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Hey Matt

You had to scribble some nonsense for David. We only allow serious stuff in The Aquarium Gazette you know.

My first thought was that the fish on the photograph was danricus but they usually have little barbels hanging from the mouth.

I kept E. danricus and they adored bloodworms. As soon as I glanced at the photograph was going to reply 'Esomus love nipping the fins of other fish for fun' but MD beat me to it. At least I can be first to add prone to velvet and that these fish are brilliant leapers.

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April 23, 2009
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Ok that sounds like they'll do best in a decent-sized group in a bigger tank then right?

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April 23, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Apr 23 2009, 12:54 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok that sounds like they'll do best in a decent-sized group in a bigger tank then right?

Yeah ones and twos can be a bit of a handful, shoals of 5+ are definitely better.

April 23, 2009
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Ok cool. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Does the fin-nipping tend to be concentrated among themselves, similar-looking species or do they have a go at everything that moves?

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April 23, 2009
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Mine went for anything that moved Matt.

The ones I had were evil little sod's hence I havent had anymore since.

April 23, 2009
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I have had a few of the Essomus's in the past and not had any probs with aggression mind you they would have shared a tank with either Barbs , Danio's or Loaches , so would have fitted in as all these fishes are pretty fast ! I wouldnt dispute what either Mark or David have said , its just that I didnt find them a problem , if my memory serves me right the ones I had were E.lineatus from Srilanka , and E.Malayanensis ? Lineatus is similar to the fish pictured only with red fins ! wheras Malayensis has a plainish body with a black caudal blotch surrounded with metalic gold , I picked these up as contaminants with Danio Nigrofasciatus [spotted danio] very nice they were too.

April 23, 2009
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Hey

Yes, given the chance, they are not 'picky' about what fish they 'nip' at. I would say 'treat like Tiger barbs'.

Hey Andy. What is your guess at the identity of the fish in the photograph?

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April 23, 2009
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Given the range quoted for metallicus I'd say it was likely to be quite variable in looks?

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April 24, 2009
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Hey

Yes a visit to Google found a number of variants. What puzzled me was that a number of photographs showed 'specimens' with clearly visible barbels/feelers/whiskers on the mouth whilst others show fish without this feature?

Regards David

April 29, 2009
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i'd go with metalicus, this fish will have been named by some of the big boys of petfrd so it's more or less certain.
i missed this thread but when i read about fin nipping, i started scratching my head thinking are we talking about the same species/genus,
i've had these over a good number of years and found them to be saints in the tank no things like have happened to Mark or David, and i've had them in ones and twos?

mick

April 30, 2009
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Just when I thought I had that bit of the profile sorted. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Cheers Mick will add that info in.

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April 30, 2009
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Hey

Things have to be tougher to survive in lands further north and east of Mick. ha ha ha

Regards David

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