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Etheostoma: Is Anyone Keeping Them?
April 20, 2011
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Stefan
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I'm just curious because they look great!

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Etheostoma tetrazonum @ Fishbase.org

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Etheostoma jessiae @ Fishbase.org

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Etheostoma spectabile by Lance Merry

April 20, 2011
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WANT WANT WANT!! And been wanting for ages. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Cake or death?
April 20, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Apr 20 2011, 10:06 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
WANT WANT WANT!! And been wanting for ages. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Why is that they're unavailable? They're not collected often, or maybe they're protected or something? Looks like you need to make some fish-friends in Arkansas.

April 20, 2011
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Been looking for them since the mid 90s!!!

A guy used to come into an aquatic shop I worked in about once a month asking for them and I just loved how they looked too. Especially since the Big Axelrod atlas had so many species listed.

Are they not banned because they could survive in the wild in Europe?

April 20, 2011
9:29 pm
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QUOTE (Colin @ Apr 20 2011, 11:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are they not banned because they could survive in the wild in Europe?

That would make sense. They won't be banned in the Netherlands though, I suspect - nothing's banned here? /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> Never seen them for sale though. They might be something I'd like to give a try sooner or later also. Let me think...

April 20, 2011
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there are a few keepers in germany, the fishes are from Ruinemans/Netherland

http://www.ruinemans.com/montf.....rt/new//in...mp;mid=3&a=

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April 20, 2011
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QUOTE (Thomas @ Apr 20 2011, 11:40 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
there are a few keepers in germany, the fishes are from Ruinemans/Netherland

http://www.ruinemans.com/montf.....rt/new//in...mp;mid=3&a=

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Cheers for that Thomas! Any idea how big Etheostoma spectabile gets? You know any of the German keeprs and what species they keep?

April 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Colin @ Apr 20 2011, 09:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are they not banned because they could survive in the wild in Europe?

I think so, in the UK at least?

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what species they keep?

I know that E. blennoides, E. caeruleum and E. spectabile are all in Germany because a member here has all three. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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April 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Apr 21 2011, 09:02 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know that E. blennoides, E. caeruleum and E. spectabile are all in Germany because a member here has all three. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I hope he's willing to share some his/her experiences and post some info on how to keep and breed them?

April 21, 2011
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I had caeruleum about 16yrs. ago but never managaed to do anything with them. Beautiful fish though. Been trying trying to get hold of some of the Ruinemanns stuff for some months now, since I discovered they had them, without success so far. I know where they are in UK but just not got around to moving in on them.
Must put more effort in (as my primary teacher used to say)!!!

April 21, 2011
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sounds interesting - is someone in the UK breeding them?

April 21, 2011
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Yeah Ruinemans is a wholesaler that only sells to shops or other wholesalers, and probably only Dutch-based ones.

April 21, 2011
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Pablito and Colin...don't you dare... /dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="<_ <" border="0" alt="dry.gif">

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April 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Apr 21 2011, 11:13 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pablito and Colin...don't you dare... /dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="<_ <" border="0" alt="dry.gif">

Face it...you're living in the wrong country mate /unsure.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":unsure:" border="0" alt="unsure.gif" />

April 21, 2011
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Well, it's trickier to find interesting species in the trade but various other aspects of living here more than make up for it. /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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April 21, 2011
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Ruinemans no longer has them available. Until next time?

April 21, 2011
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Don't know of anyone breeding any of these sp. in the UK but they have been coming into Wholesale Trops from Ruinemanns therefore we've no need to come to the Netherlands just yet. However it's been a long time since I've been to Ruinemanns so I might try and put a gig together. It's far too expensive nowadays to drive there on your own. Difficult to justify cost wise without sharing.

April 21, 2011
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But Wholesale Trops doesn't have me in it /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> But if you guys do ever go; drop me a note and I'll join you - if you'll have me, that is. At the moment I don't think I have the space for Etheostoma but they certainly are appealing enough to give a shot further down the road and I'm not fussy about a particular species although one that's colourful might be nice.

So Pablito you've kept them; can you tell us soething about to keep them (sort of tank, size, wtaer, temps, decoration, tank mates, how big the species you had grew, etc.)?

April 21, 2011
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So Pablito you've kept them; can you tell us soething about to keep them (sort of tank, size, wtaer, temps, decoration, tank mates, how big the species you had grew, etc.)?
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Have kept caeruleum only however my memory is not what it was so I'll have to check my old logs at home to refresh it.

April 21, 2011
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That'd be wonderful, if you could do that!

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