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Gobiocichla Wonderi
October 10, 2008
2:54 pm
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They're fascinating to watch though atm they're spending quite a lot of time below the powerheads where I've left a bit of a gap with regards to gravel/rockwork.. so I'm gonna fill it up with more gravel, pop a couple of rocks around the powerhead pipes and possibly even throw an airstone in to encourage them to move elsewhere in the tank.

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October 10, 2008
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Gutted that the last pic turned out blurred.. it looked perfect on the screen :[

October 10, 2008
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They are lovely dunc, they look to be settling in nicely /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

October 10, 2008
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Aaah wonderful! The green-eyed monster is out in force here! /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> They have an air of Stiphodon about them don't you reckon? Superb!

Ps - give them a bit of time mate. They're probably clustered together like that because they're frightened after the journey. Am sure they'll start to spread out and define territories once they're feeling settled. How many d'ya get in the end?

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October 10, 2008
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There's 7 in total, range of sizes.. two near fully-grown through to one of them who is decidedly tiny /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Yeah they definitely don't look like cichlids /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Well.. there's something about them that clearly defines them as cichlids, whilst looking as un-cichlid-like as possible.. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> They're awesome to watch though. Threw a few spare bloodworms in from the other tanks' feeds and they go crazy. Jump in to the flow, catch the food, then back down to chew it.

October 10, 2008
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Any chance of a vid? /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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October 10, 2008
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I don't actually have any video-capable technology /ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> Next time Amy's over with her camera I'll get one /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

October 10, 2008
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Beauties mate, how do they like their new tank and the flow.?

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October 10, 2008
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They seem to be perfectly happy Mick, just quarreling between themselves /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

October 10, 2008
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Did you decide on tankmates chimp?

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October 10, 2008
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Gonna just hold out - if I see something I fancy online or when I'm out n about, I'll grab them /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

October 10, 2008
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Very nice!

Any chance of a full tank shot?

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October 11, 2008
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Try here Mark. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Dunc what about fan shrimp for your tank once it matures a bit? Filter feeders so won't bother fry...

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October 11, 2008
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Shrimp are something I've never really considered.. but I'm looking for something a bit different this time and as such would contemplate it.

Which species would you recommend?

October 11, 2008
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QUOTE (Matt @ Oct 11 2008, 12:58 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try here Mark. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />


*makes note not to post when falling asleep* /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

Tank looks good too, Dunc.

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October 11, 2008
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Thanks everyone /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

I have some questions about the fish though.. can't seem to find any reliable information on them.

What would their natural habitat be like with regards to water parameters? pH, temps, etc.. and what would live near/around them in the wild?

October 11, 2008
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Species also found in the Upper Niger rapids include 4 species of Nannocharax (think Graeme posted pics of his on here so maybe try a search), Chiloglanis (another type of suckermouth cat), several Barbus of which the only one I'd even heard of was B. callipterus, 3 species of Barilius, Micralestes acutidens, a bunch of gobies and various Alestes. Most of them will be super-hard to get hold of I would imagine except Alestes longipinnis and maybe Nannocharax... /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Water temps in the Upper Niger area vary seasonally between 20°–30°C in flowing waters although in some calm areas they can reach 40°C. PH 6.5-7.2, conductivity 31-70 µS cm-1 (means it's pretty low in salts and inorganic chemicals and probably quite soft). That's all I've been able to get dood.

Edit: The shrimps I mentioned are these boys mate.

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October 12, 2008
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That's fine mate, cheers. I was sure I'd read somewhere that they liked soft water because I was gonna throw some peat in one of the filters.. but then I read an article saying they were thriving in pH 8.2 - I got a bit confused!

I'll probably stick some peat in, I've got a huuuge bag full as the local garden centres only sell the pure stuff in massive 30kg bags!

Is Alestes the most up to date genus for the long finned Tetra? I think I know it as Brycinus.

October 12, 2008
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You're right love. I just transcribed that from a paper and it was late. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

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October 12, 2008
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Really cool fish, and nice pictures. How are they behaviour wise? Aggressive?

Hope you manage to breed them /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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