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October 6, 2008
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I am fairly new to fish keeping at the moment I have got a 200 litre 44 gallon tank with a Fluvall 205 external filter, My tank is just recovering from a bab case of White spot and I thought it was all clear so this morning I have added an Elephant Nosed fish what I need to know is if this fish can survive when I turn the temperature up to 30c I will have to do this as well as redosing with the Protozin, as I have noticed that one of my Gourami's is starting to rub itself on objects in the tank, I hope it is not the start of White spot again.
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Steve.

October 6, 2008
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Hi Steve I've got a feeling Protozin is one of the products that isn't safe for use with elephant-noses and other mormyrids. If you check the instructions it should tell you. The temperature increase should be ok on a temporary basis. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

In my opinion elephant-noses are not the easiest fish to keep at the best of times. How is your tank set up in terms of substrate, decor, tankmates etc. mate?

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October 6, 2008
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Hi Steve, welcome to Seriously Fish /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Your Gnathonemus petersii (Elephantnose Fish) will be perfectly happy at 30°C for a short period of time, i.e. the length of your whitespot treatments.

One thing you should bear in mind however is that G. petersii is a scaleless fish, meaning standard aquarium medications can harm it if not dosed correctly.

Read the back of the Protozin bottle for more information - it will probably suggest halving the dosage. On that note - some people prefer to use King British WS3 treatment. I have had good experiences with Protozin but there are quite a few people that really don't rate it.

There is allegedly a "super strain" of whitespot which is very difficult to remove, but I wouldn't worry too much at this stage. Continue the dosing, week by week [with water changes at the end of each cycle] until none of your fishes have spots and have stopped scraping their scales off objects in your aquarium.

October 6, 2008
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Thanks for the replies, I have been looking at a few sites and I don't think it is whitespot that my Gourami has got it looks more like an ulcer so do you think that I can treat it with Melafix are ulcers contagious?, Now about my Elephant nose the fish shop said that it would take flake but reading up on it I am in doubt, what do I feed it I know it is a nocturnal fish will it take frozen bloodworm if so how do I make sure it is getting food and the other fish are not eating it all, reading up on this fish I think I am going to be sorry that I bought it, can any one please give me some tips on looking after it, my water stats are always fine with no Ammonia, no, Nitrite and only very slight Nitrate I hate the colour chart method of water testing but the water in the test tube hardly changes colour and I do two big water changes a week of about 50 percent I have Molly's Platty's Keyhole Cichlids, Ram's a red Lined Torpeado and a couple of cat fish as tank mate's.

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Steve.

October 6, 2008
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You need to try and get us some pictures Steve, it's the only way we can help you diagnose the problem. Try not to add any medicines to the tank unless you know exactly what the problem is.

How big is your tank? As Matt mentioned, Elephantnose Fish aren't particularly easy to keep. You could spend some time researching it and altering your tank to its needs.. or you could see if your LFS will take it back, possibly in return for store credit.

Next time you see a fish you like, pop back on here and check our Knowledge Base, then ask a few questions before you buy - safest bet /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

October 6, 2008
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id just reduce the amount of the water change to 20-25% each time but twice a week will be fine, as for feeding the elephant nose should happily take the bloodworm and are quite active thru the day, you could turn your tank light off half an hour before putting the bloodworm in and just have a dim room light on to make the fish more comfortable, as for the 'ulcer' it would depend exactly what it was, just keep an eye on it

October 6, 2008
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Hi steve,
where are you? local petshop to me had elephant noses in the other day, they also had a fighting fish in with a load of guppies and wondered why they all had ragged fins.

October 7, 2008
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QUOTE (Bigbadbaz @ Oct 6 2008, 10:56 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi steve,
where are you? local petshop to me had elephant noses in the other day, they also had a fighting fish in with a load of guppies and wondered why they all had ragged fins.


Hi, I am from Liverpool, I got my Elephant Nose fish from Dobbies in Southport, Thank You all for your replies.

Steve.

October 8, 2008
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Hey Steve

Nothing to do with fish but as we have a number of soccer people on SF are you Everton, Liverpool or Tranmere fan?

Regards David

October 9, 2008
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David, what's "soccer"? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

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October 9, 2008
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QUOTE (David Marshall @ Oct 8 2008, 02:21 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Steve

Nothing to do with fish but as we have a number of soccer people on SF are you Everton, Liverpool or Tranmere fan?

Regards David


Hi David, I am not at all interested in Football, I was years ago but not now, I think the game has been ruined now, it is just a Business now, See how many games you could afford to take yourself and a couple of kids to not many I bet.

Steve.

October 10, 2008
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Hey Steve

Yes totally agree. I cannot afford to go to Leeds Utd. like I could in the past.

How is the Elephant Nose doing?

Hey Matt

Very funny young man. As you know some of our overseas friends call other ball sports football so to use the term soccer puts the finger, or should this be boot, on the correct ball.

Regards to all
David

October 10, 2008
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Hi David, I don't see that much of it, It comes out a lot when I put the tank lights' out or in the morning before I put them on, I have to watch for it to make sure it is getting food, I feed all the fish in the morning and I put some frozen bloodworm in the tank at night I try and see if it is feeding, do you know what else I can give it apart from the worm.

Steve.

October 10, 2008
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Hey Steve

Earthworm is a good food for these fish.

A good trick you could try (works well with Spiny eels) is to use the plastic hose from an aquarium syphon set. It may take some patience to get right but place the hose close to the Elephant Nose and drop the worms down. Elephant Nose are brainy, in a fish sense, and should soon learn that the sight of the hose means food, and they also have the right temperament to keep other fish clear of 'their' food source. Spiny eels certainly catch on very quickly.

Regards David

October 13, 2008
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On the back of my protozin bottle it says "Protozin must not be used in any aquaria containing African Mormyrids (i.e elephant noses) Pirahna, rays and sturgeon/sterlets" but it sounds like your elephant nose is fine. This post is probably no use at all cos its about a week late, but oh well!

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