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Hemirhamphodon Tengah
January 30, 2009
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Does anyone here have any experience with this fish? Got a group of 7 in December, got 6 left, 3 males and 3 females. Recently moved the biggest male and the three females to their own 30 litre tank (45x30x22). Yesterday I saw the first spawn, but unfortunately I also have a bunch of P. wingei in there that I used to cycle the tank, and of course they munched on the eggs /mad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":mad:" border="0" alt="mad.gif" />

Oh well, going to remove the guppies today. But does anybody know if it's necessary to remove the eggs? Or does the adults not bother the fry?
Haven't found much info on them, only a thread on petfrd and a thread on the aquaristikimdetail forum, but since I don't know any german and internet translators don't work too well it's not very useful to me.

January 30, 2009
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Hey Oaken

Very little but it might help?

H. tengah has the long common name of Borneo redline tribal halfbeak. Scientifically named by Anderson and Collette in 1991. Grows to a size of 3.6cm. From Southern Borneo and Indonesia. Here it is found in soft water with a pH no greater than 6. Young are few in number but strong.

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January 30, 2009
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Thanks for the information David.

January 30, 2009
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The only things I would add to Davids answer is that Aqualog have them as a 6cm fish, and the only ones I have seen before weren't far off 5cm, from what I know they also like higher temps from 75'F up to 85'F and they seem to prefer their tank lighting very subdued almost dark.

January 30, 2009
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Pete & Paul at Bolton museum are keeping and breeding this species, i'm not a livebearer fan but i must say they are very pretty beasties.
if offered any i would'nt say no.
i hope either one of the lads see this post so they can give you the info needed.

mick

January 30, 2009
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Mad Duff: they dont seem to mind a bright tank as long as you place something over the tank to make a "dark spot". But yeah, they definitely grow larger than 3.6cm, mine are all probably 5-6cm.

Mick: Yeah, the males are amazing in the right light, need to try and get a good picture of my big male. And I've read about their success over at petfrd, but would be cool if they would chime in here /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 30, 2009
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Hey

I can add a little extra. When this specie went forward for scientific classification there was much debate as to an exact status as they are more pipefish in nature than halfbeak.

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January 30, 2009
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Image doesn't really do it justice, I've seen these somewhere before, but I can't for the life of me remember where /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Incredible that it was discovered so recently /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 30, 2009
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Interesting David, where did you read that?

Dunc, thats not a H. tengah. Looks more like a H. phaiosoma I think.

The pictures here: http://www.nothobranchius.de/h.....hodon.html are the only ones that come close to showing the colours they can display. The two stripes on the males really are electric blue/green.

January 30, 2009
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i remember the lads saying something about that paper.
i have seen the eggs and new born fry, one interesting thing is their beaks look bent/ deformed but as they grow it straightens out.
Dunc and Matt will have seen them at the museum.

mick

January 31, 2009
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Here is an old picture from december, taken without a flash so its a bit blurry:

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January 31, 2009
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Amazing-looking species. /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> Dunc mate we had a batch in at the shop so that's probably where you saw them and Mick's right Pete and Paul had a group of gorgeous fish in at the museum.

Cake or death?
January 31, 2009
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Lovely looking fish /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

February 2, 2009
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Ahhh yes, that would explain that then /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> That fish looks fantastic oaken. When can we expect some more pics?

February 2, 2009
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LOL @ slavedriver! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

February 2, 2009
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they are stunning halfbeaks. be good once there are a few more available to the hobbiest.

February 2, 2009
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QUOTE (dunc @ Feb 2 2009, 02:45 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ahhh yes, that would explain that then /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> That fish looks fantastic oaken. When can we expect some more pics?

Haha, I'll try to get some more and better pictures soon /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

February 2, 2009
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QUOTE (oaken @ Feb 2 2009, 10:26 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha, I'll try to get some more and better pictures soon /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />


Good man /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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Decent picture of the male. Their colour is very flexible depending on the light, but I still haven't been able to capture the amazing colours they seem to get when they hide in the shadows. And yes, their skin looks like that and it's not a result of high noise in the picture /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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