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How Best To Revive Amazon Swords?
February 24, 2011
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poshsouthernbird
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Hi - following on from my mystery plant thread I wonder if anyone can offer some advice on reviving some rather sad amazon swords? I bought four a few months ago, they were getting on for 20" tall but the fish have now shredded them and they are mere shadows of their former glory. To be fair it may also be down to a lack of proper nutrients, planting substrate, ferts or decent lighting as much as the fish. I'm reluctant to bin them, I gave the last one to someone else in despair and it is now resplendent so I'm hoping I can revive these. They have some very pale, thin, weedy leaves coming from the base so they have a will to live /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

First aid has been removal from tank; I've loosely wrapped some sponge and lead round them to keep them down and they are in a large white bucket by a floor length window and a radiator (I'm thinking they need some light and warmth!) with some tank water. The only ferts I have at hand are JBL Ferropol and JBL Ferropol 24.

Any ideas happily received /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

This is they, the fourth is in there, it just doesn't have any leaves to speak of ...

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February 26, 2011
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Chop off all the bad leaves and just leave the healthiest looking ones (even is this is just a few new smallish leaves) , cut back the roots to a manageable ball and replant in a deep bit of substrate. Pop some root tab fertilisers close to the roots. Put them somewhere in your aquarium which maximises the light they get. They should soon grow back, may take a while as I find they are failry slow growers unless you have lots of light and CO2.

Echinodorus are greedy root feeders, they appreciate a deeper substrate and plenty of ferts in the substrate, I also use laterite in the substrate of tanks that are going to have a lot of Ech. species as they also appreciate a good source of iron.

Do you have any ancistrus in your tank? They love to rasp over the leaves of ech. species leaving them like lace plants! A bit of cucumber every few days soon puts a stop to that.

February 26, 2011
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Hi Dave - thanks for that /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Sounds like I need to set up my 'plant nursery' tank and put them in there for a while with a bit of TLC. I don't have any ancistrus, just the goldies - they just rip bits off them /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> I've got some root tabs somewhere, will dig them out.

Cheers /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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March 31, 2011
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How did you get on Sue? Manage to revive it?

March 31, 2011
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Hi Dave - thanks for asking /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> They're hanging on in there, had a bit of a delay with setting up plant tank but now have tank installed in garage with some nice 'nutrient rich' water from the other tanks so am hoping they'll pick up nicely now. Will hopefully be able to post some 'after' pics soon(ish!).

On another note, have been reading old threads in plant section and have just bought the Peter Hiscock book you've recommended to a few people - looking forward to a good read /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Always good to know it comes recommended.

Cheers, S /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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March 31, 2011
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As Dave pointed out Amazon Swords appreciate a good source of iron, and I've had good results by burying a few small panel pins in the substrate near the plants when I didn't want to disturb the substrate too much by adding laterite in an established tank.
The iron will corrode slowly in the anaerobic conditions to ferric (black) rather than ferrous (rust red) form and it really does seem to work. I suspect that the importance of iron as a nutrient is often overlooked.

April 19, 2011
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QUOTE (ferox @ Mar 31 2011, 09:55 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suspect that the importance of iron as a nutrient is often overlooked.

I completely agree. Particularly with those people who wish to keep aquatic plants with red colouration. I have a tank full of Nyphaea tiger 'red' and the difference with adding an iron supplement is incredible when you look at their colouration.

April 19, 2011
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Am i right in thinking that clay is iron rich? Could it be an idea to mix soem clay through the substrate at start up? Or add clay to the water like koi keepers do? Perhaps small balls of clay pushed into the swords roots?

April 29, 2011
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QUOTE (Colin @ Apr 19 2011, 01:02 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am i right in thinking that clay is iron rich? Could it be an idea to mix soem clay through the substrate at start up? Or add clay to the water like koi keepers do? Perhaps small balls of clay pushed into the swords roots?

Quite right, red clay is iron rich and laterite is red clay. Only problem with clays is that they consist of ultra-fine particles and can easily cloud the water, the stuff sold for aquarium use is in pelleted form which reduces (but not eliminates entirely) this risk and needs to be washed to remove loose dust before use.
Considering that an estimated 30% of the earth's continental surfaces consist of laterite, the price for a little box seems ludicrous!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laterite

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