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Juwel Internal Filter
May 4, 2011
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ender2811
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Heya, was wondering if anyone had any tips regarding maintenance of a juwel int filter.
It's a Standard H model, 600 L/h pump. I'm new at this so anything u have in terms of frequency of cleaning/replacing sponges would be appreciated.
Thanks.

May 4, 2011
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I would rip that thing out and throw it in the bin. It's absolute rubbish (I've replaced them all by external filters).

May 4, 2011
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What Stefan said. There goes our advertising contract with Juwel... /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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May 4, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ May 4 2011, 10:29 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
What Stefan said. There goes our advertising contract with Juwel... /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

If they'd made a product that actually worked we wouldn't be here.

May 4, 2011
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It's not absolute rubbish. But it would be better to have a stronger canister filter /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

May 4, 2011
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QUOTE (Fevz @ May 4 2011, 10:38 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not absolute rubbish. But it would be better to have a stronger canister filter /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I've about 6 Juwel tanks and used the internal filters for a couple of years; nothing good came of it, hence I say that in my experience they are rubbish. I am so very happy since I switched to external Fluval filters. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

May 4, 2011
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depends what your keeping. While i'd agree that a decent external is much much better, I've had both a trigon 190 and juwel rekord 60 for years both with the internal filters - no problems what so ever. I upgraded the pump in both though to give more flow.

I try not to touch the filters much - rinse out the top white sponge every couple of weeks and then maybe once every three months hoik everything else out and rinse it in tank water. I did add sera siporax (noodles) instead of one of the sponges in the trigon:

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May 4, 2011
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Thanks gents. Will look into upgrading in the future, unfortunately it's not possible at the moment.

@Bluedave: Thought their schedule of replacing the sponges was a bit over the top. Did your trigon not have a ceramic ring cartridge? This one does, so do you mean you added another one instead of a sponge for a total of two or just the one??? Also a 1000L/h pump? Are they interchangeable or does it require any DIY stunts?

Their instructions are: CHANGE top sponge once a week, the two beneath them once a month/3 months, and exchange the ones where the culture is supposed to grow every 4-6 months.
Also love how they put 2 sponges in which are exactly the same only one is green and the other is blue and that makes an enormous difference for bacterial growth. It seems microorganisms don't care for blue very much lol. Sorry Dave /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

May 5, 2011
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lol, I think the green one is supposed to help with Nitrosomus (sp) bacteria - load of cobblers!

I left the blue sponge in (of course!) and removed the green one then added the siporax. I have had the sam sponges in my Rekord 60 for about 9 years - all they need is a rinse every few months in tank water. The white top sponge probably gets renewed every few months as it is so fine that it eventually falls to bits but I just buy a big bag of filter floss (think the last bag was Sera).

Never heard of a ceramic ring cartridge - sounds painful!

The pumps are interchangeable - think I put a 1200 l/h pump in the trigon and 800 or 900 l/hr in the rekord - I can check the Rekord but you'll have to wait a couple of days as it's up and running.

May 5, 2011
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Thanks Dave, loads of help.

You don't have to bother with checking the pump. I'll just see if I can find a stronger one for a reasonable price. This one, the 600, does look a bit weakish.

The cartridge isn't exactly ceramic, or rings for that matter. It' called cirax, like a coarse gravel type thingy. Like siporax only no holes. Might try to replace it. Sip has a lot more surface area looks like. But basically it's the same kind of thing.

Anything else come to mind I should know about?

May 5, 2011
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Not really mate, simple as that really!

May 5, 2011
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Thanks a lot Dave.
Gonna go plant my Hygrophila now. Wish me luck /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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