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March 6, 2012
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Matt
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Any opinions on this one?

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March 6, 2012
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Ok, I am a rookie here but from ventral fins before dorsal: Lepidocephalichthys? Maybe tomaculum?

March 6, 2012
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Lepidocephalichthys is my idea too. No suggestion about the species.

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March 6, 2012
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Possibly L.hasselti ?

March 7, 2012
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Collection locality is northern Peninsular Malaysia if that helps.

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March 8, 2012
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I would say definitely Lepidocephalichthys, my guess at species would be furcatus?

March 8, 2012
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QUOTE (Mark Duffill @ Mar 8 2012, 07:32 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would say definitely Lepidocephalichthys, my guess at species would be furcatus?

I think caudal fin doesn't fit...

March 9, 2012
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Cheers guys. Was asking this for a friend who collected it. It's been identified by an ichthyologist as L. tomaculum but exhibits some differences from the diagnosis for that species so he was interested to know others' opinions.

I should add that I initially said it was a Paramisgurnus so don't think he'll ask again mind... /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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March 9, 2012
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I should add that I initially said it was a Paramisgurnus


Matt, don't drink and determine /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

March 9, 2012
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 9 2012, 02:14 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
(...) It's been identified by an ichthyologist as L. tomaculum but exhibits some differences from the diagnosis for that species (...)

If they feel L. tomaculum doesn't quite fit maybe it is worth considering Kotellatlimia? I think there was a fish once classed as Lepidocephalichthys that was then moved to Kotellatlimia (pristes)? Differences must have been very fine...

March 9, 2012
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K. pristes and K. katik were in the genus Lepidocephalichthys but there is at least one big different: at the males of Kottelatlimia is the second ray of the pectorale thickened, at Lepidocephalichthys it's the last ray.

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Lepidocephalichthys male:

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I'm not sure if there are other "good to see" differences, except for the pectorals I would also say this two genera are very similar (at least in their aquaristic care).

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Thomas

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March 9, 2012
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QUOTE (Thomas @ Mar 9 2012, 03:25 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Matt, don't drink and determine /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Hehe, or, don't try to identify anything before the first coffee in the morning. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

Lepidocephalichthys doesn't seem to be in question, just whether it's something undescribed or not.

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March 10, 2012
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 9 2012, 02:14 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cheers guys. Was asking this for a friend who collected it. It's been identified by an ichthyologist as L. tomaculum but exhibits some differences from the diagnosis for that species so he was interested to know others' opinions.

I should add that I initially said it was a Paramisgurnus so don't think he'll ask again mind... /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />


Strangely Matt that's the very thing that appeals to me ,,Weather loaches in miniature ? /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

March 10, 2012
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I'd go with tomaculum too.

See my catfish images at http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/thedarkone.htm
March 15, 2012
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Cheers Your Darkness and all, have passed it on. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

Andy, used your comment as an excuse for my dodgy id'ing 'skills'. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

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