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Lost Soul
March 3, 2008
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excuse me everyone. we have a slight problem.
this fish was dead in the tank when we got home today.
its horrible but I will post a pic of it, just incase anyone can tell us maybe what happened to it.
could it be the black ghost knife fish?

thanx /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

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March 3, 2008
6:24 pm
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Poor blighter /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Was it looking ill before Ruth? It's difficult to ascertain a cause of death from the pic; something has probably had a go at it since it died.

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March 3, 2008
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We think that it might have been lieing on the bottom a little before we found it. Both the mollies are doing it to. Ross keeps doing small water changes incase its that but we just dont know. Another platy has been lieing on the bottom too. We have some Antiseptic treatment but we are not sure if it will harm the ghost so we havent used it
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March 3, 2008
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Hey everyone. just a quick one.

This is the 200 l tank we have. This seems to be the 1 with all the problems, the others have low PH,and KH but they are slowly rising, However its different with this 1. Its got less fish than the 110l tank yet is dirtier also no matter how much i clean it he water is always dirty....................../sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Do you think its time for drastic measures??? /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

I could empty the tank completly, clean all the gravel, plants and decor and the tank itself, whilst keeping the fish else where. Then after making sure the filter is working properly reintroduce the fish.......???

Was just a thought as i know a fully cycled dirty aquarium is better than a brand new clean aquarium that is prone to nitrate and ammonia spikes.................
Also would it help to get some snails from the LFS as they are innundated with them at min and will give away for free........ i dont want to end up losing all the fish!!!! /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

March 3, 2008
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Hi Ross,
Dont bother with the snails as you'll end up with them one day and then you'll end up giving them away yourself or buying fish to eat them which arnt compatible with what you have got . Get a good comprehensive fish keeping book which will save you money with future planning.
All the best,
G.John

March 4, 2008
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We seem to have lost another platy today. It was alive this morning before we left for work but now its gone. We think that it has been eaten /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

There will be none left soon

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March 4, 2008
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Hi guys, oh dear that doesn't sound good. I agree with everything John said, but am interested to kow what filter you are using on that tank and what medium is inside the filter?

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March 5, 2008
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In total we have lost 3 platys and maybe an angelfish. 2 just disappeared. The medium is gravel (mixture of white and normal gravel) The filter that we use mostly is the 1 thats built in to the tank. it has circular white stone type things underneath thin material stuff. if that helps although i have just added another filter that has sponge on the outside and i added some thin material stuff in the middle. this also has a strong jet so it keeps the water moving slowly.

Hope this helps

Ross and Ruth

March 7, 2008
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Hmm, to be honest it sounds as though the filtration is ok guys. Two more questions spring to mind. What does the "material stuff" look like? Do you buy all your fish from the same shop?

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March 8, 2008
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hi everyone.

more bad news, two more fishes are dead. I dont know if they had been attacked. I am not sure what they r called but I will post a pic of the fish (befor it died).
ross will do test on the tank tonight, and he will find out if its bad. if not....dont know whats killing them. maybe the other fishes?
all thats left in the tank is angelfish, black ghost, tigerbarbs, swordtails, chilcilds (prob spelled wrong) and some that lies on the bottom....
anyway. here is the pic, we had two of the same kind. /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

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March 8, 2008
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Mmm, have you treated that tank with any medications Ruth? Oh and I'd still like to know if all these fish came from the same shop.

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March 8, 2008
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hi again....

i will have ross post when he come back cause he knows what he have put in the wather /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
we have not bought the fishes at the same shop, but we are very carefull when we put the fish in the tank that we dont put the shop wather in the tank. we put the fishbag in the tank to get the tempeture the same, and then put more and more of the tank wather in the bag, and when the bag is full we fish the fish out of the bag and put it in. but there might be some (desies) on the fish. the chilcilds are the last we bought, we have four of them, bought them at the same shop......
but the shop is not very good, its very big, but usually have dead fish in half of the tanks. but we never buy a fish from a tank with any dead ones in

thanks

March 8, 2008
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hey everyone.

the fish in the tank are from 3 different shops but they are all within a few miles of each other so may have same supplier........... dont know if that would affect anything though.

the only things that we add to the water are .....

1) Water purifier
2) biological stuff that helps cycle your tank. ( although we only used it for 2 weeks but havent done for 3 - 4 weeks now)

and that is all. we have used all in each ofthe tanks and this isthe only one that seems to be affected. /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

I have just done a water test and all i have found was

PH 7.5
KH 2
GH 2
NO-2 0.3mg/l

i also used to different PH testers to check and 1 was 7.5 and the other 8

When we bought the tank we found the filter tube was cracked so the end kept falling off.
I had used some electrical tape to fix it and this was submerged since we got it. Do you think this may have poisened the fish? I have removed the tape and done a small water change and i will do another tomorrow.

Hopefully this will fix tank and all the fish will be healthy.........

March 9, 2008
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I'd suggest adding no more fish to that tank until the problem is rectified guys. Keep doing your weekly water changes, feed sparingly for a week or so and hopefully things should start to sort themselves out. You may want to avoid keeping livebearers with your knife fish and cichlids in the future, too. Keep us updated /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

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March 9, 2008
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hey....

we have moved the swordtails to the 110 tank now and they appear to have been bitten. hopefully they will be ok now tho. will the knife fish be ok with no food as the other fish always get there 1st.

thanks for the help.

Ross and Ruth /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

March 10, 2008
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What are you feeding the knife fish on Ross? You can try adding food for it after dark, as it's a nocturnal species by nature.

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March 10, 2008
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We always feed the fish around 7 or 8 when we are both home from work. We feed all the tanks with a mixture of pellets, flakes and bloodworms. We specifically feed the fighting fish with bloodworms as they refuse everything else.

We then normally feed the knife before we go to bed with blood worms, although it takes quite a while before he finds them and by then they have been mostly eaten by others.

The tank however seems to have settled down a little. All the fish are starting to act more normal and the knife fish has started coming out more in the day too.

thanks

Ross and Ruth

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