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Mesonoemacheilus spp.
March 27, 2011
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Matt
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The only species I've experience with is M. triangularis, and that was only in the shop, but they seemed fairly territorial wee things. Does anyone have experience with any of the other species and how do they compare behaviour-wise?

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March 28, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 27 2011, 12:41 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only species I've experience with is M. triangularis, and that was only in the shop, but they seemed fairly territorial wee things. Does anyone have experience with any of the other species and how do they compare behaviour-wise?

Cheers

I have a tank with 9 M.guetheri's ... very shy and very mild. No territorial habits whatsoever, the best hiding places are shared.

There is one M. triangularis with them and he does not show territorial behavior either.

Hopefully this is of some use.

March 28, 2011
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I've watched m. guntheri come & go in the shop for probably 2 years now trying to find a pace to put them. Something else always comes along and takes priority. They seem like Mike said, very easy going. They must be hardy as this shop has issues and i've never in all this time seen them sick!

March 28, 2011
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Hi Matt , thats a fair point about Triangularis , but if anybody wants to keep a group without too much squabbling it can be acheived if the hiding places are omitted , I kept elleven in a 4ft tank with a sand base and a few wool mops for hide outs , they lived together without any tiffs /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> if solid objects like rocks or pebbles were added then the demon in them would be awoken /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> ok the tank was less asthetically pleasing but the fish were placid to each other /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

March 28, 2011
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That's interesting Andy. Conventional wisdom, at least what i read most, says more hiding places(enough to go around) is the answer. This says just the opposite. I do see the logic, nothing to fight over.

March 28, 2011
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I got triangularis after my balteata beat the living snot out of each other and the triangularis did exactly the same thing, the more hiding places they have the more they fight for them.

Guentheri on the other hand are total opposite and my group are housed with my sid's and they are very placid, I also have a possible guetheri variant or Mesonemacheilus Sp and that is in with mixed Schistura's and that is very placid as well.

March 29, 2011
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Thanks for all the useful input. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> It's weird how people can have different experiences with the same species eh? I had 8 S. cf. balteata in a 3 foot tank which was absolutely stuffed with rockwork for over a year and a half and they never touched each other.

@ Mark - how was the catfish convention???

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March 29, 2011
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It was a very good weekend Matt, I forgot to take my camera so am waiting for some pics to arrive so that I can post some up here.

I probably enjoyed the Hans Evers and Ralf Britz talks the most, Devin Grahams talk were good but the others were a bit heavy going.

There will be a Loach talk in 2013 by yours truly, next years speakers are already booked.

Got quite a lot of interest in the Loach stand and managed to even convert a couple of catfish people /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

March 29, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 29 2011, 12:16 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for all the useful input. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> It's weird how people can have different experiences with the same species eh? I had 8 S. cf. balteata in a 3 foot tank which was absolutely stuffed with rockwork for over a year and a half and they never touched each other.

I wonder if the diffeent populations of s. balteata aren't different in their temperament? They do look quite different. Mine are peaceful also.

March 30, 2011
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Hi Plaamoo , I have 3 Balteata cf/s in a 5ft tank with Syncrossus's beauforti and berdmorei, Y.morleti [skunks ] and 3 Scaphognathus barbs and they seem fine ,they sit on the rocks confidently right up to the last second if one of the big Syncrossus's is on the move /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> great little characters /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> beautifully coloured fish too ,probably more attractive than the standard Balteata, and they are nice also !

March 30, 2011
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In the shop I keep like 40 Mesonoemacheilus triangularis in a 128 liter. Only decor is some Anubias spp. They seem peaceful, and easy to keep. They have been in the tank for around four weeks. The biggest problem I got, is that nobody wants to by this nice looking fish!

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March 31, 2011
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Dont put any solid objects i.e.rocks pebbles in ,all hell will break loose /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

March 31, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Mar 30 2011, 09:28 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Plaamoo , I have 3 Balteata cf/s in a 5ft tank with Syncrossus's beauforti and berdmorei, Y.morleti [skunks ] and 3 Scaphognathus barbs and they seem fine ,they sit on the rocks confidently right up to the last second if one of the big Syncrossus's is on the move /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> great little characters /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> beautifully coloured fish too ,probably more attractive than the standard Balteata, and they are nice also !

Sounds like a nice tank Andy! I say the little balteata better mind their manners with all those other beasts about!

March 31, 2011
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Hi Plaamoo ,they seem to be quite aloof to their tank mates /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> possibly to quick /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

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What's the max observed size of M. triangularis? Everywhere I look it says 5-6cm but I seem to remember Pier Aquatics importing some absolute monsters a year or two back?

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