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Mikrogeophagus ramirezi advice
January 19, 2015
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Barb Man
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My newly acquired German blue Rams just bred but I'm not so sure if the male fertilized them. I read on the profile that the fry like leaf litter so I'm going to add soon. I added a second filter to help with the water quality but it's pretty clear already. Even though there's two filters the flow isn't very fast. Is there any advice for first time breeders? I'm going to leech the leaves for a few days till most of the tannins are out and also so some micro organisms can grow. I'll add some pictures later. What do they look like if they're fertilized and if they aren't would be cool if anyone knows. Anything is helpful thanks all

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January 19, 2015
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Hey! I've had rams breed in my tank. Fertilised eggs usually look clear and smooth with a slightly yellow tinge. Any white and opaque eggs are unfertilised and should be removed as they could rot and contaminate others. If it's the first time your rams breed, they will probably eat their eggs, especially if they themselves are tank-bred. 

January 19, 2015
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Hi,

George is correct, the most likely scenario is the rams eating the eggs by the second day. When I bred rams I had a pair eating the eggs twice before letting them hatch, and even then the fry were not cared for. It's a good thing tat you have a pair forming, but you'll have to be patient.

Regarding the leaf litter, just wash the leaves thoroughly and add them to the tank. The tannins are beneficial as well and when the microorganisms start breaking the leaves down, they will provide a nice secondary food source for the fry when they hatch.

February 9, 2015
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So they bred again and the male kept chasing the female so I put her in my thirty which is mostly empty aside from the gobies and SAE. The eggs are a mix of white and clear and its been two days and they haven't hatched. One had fungi on it so I removed it but I think that they aren't going to make it. The profile didn't have any advice on breeding. I just hope that maybe a few will make it this time and if not it isn't a big deal because I've had them for almost a month and they've bred twice now. Any ideas on keeping fungi down?

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February 9, 2015
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February 9, 2015
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Those were yesterday and this is right now. There is some sand on them now and I'm going to say that isn't good too

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 Sorry the lighting is a little off because they have them on a curved surface

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February 10, 2015
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Have they made it?

February 11, 2015
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No the fungus spread and the ramhorn snails ate them. They will hopefully breed again soon. I hope to eventually get some fry. I netted a fry this morning but I believe it to be from my Celestichthys margaritatus but that is also pretty fantastic!!!

I moved the female back into the tank and I'm going to be doing regular water changes to make sure that the water quality stays up.

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February 14, 2015
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You could try raising the eggs artificially if you have enough time to spare.

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