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My Goby
September 7, 2009
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Guys.. do you know what gobi is this ??

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September 7, 2009
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At a guess I would say possibly a Sicyopterus species, maybe jongkasi Red

September 7, 2009
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I'm with Mark; male Sicyopus jonklaasi.

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September 7, 2009
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I've got the same fish and I initially thought s. jonklassi, but I posted a pic at the yahoogobygroup and the reply that i got from Ron(possibly Ron watson) was sicyopus exallisquamulus-see link,page 8 I believe. http://forums.loaches.com/view.....pic.php?t=...6&start=105
Lovely fish! Quite different than I expected. I really like the algae eating gobies, stiphodon&sicyopterus, that I have with them. These are carnivores and are always looking for food! Mine show no interest in dry foods, only bloodworms and brineshrimp and they musty be moving. They also Love small garden worms!! I bought three and had to separate them as the dominant one was starving the 2 others.

September 7, 2009
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Ah I remember that thread now. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

The one in the pic seems to have a lot more orange colouration than those in the link. Is that just natural variation?

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September 7, 2009
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Mine seem to change their degree of red shown, no specific reason that I've identified? The dominant one does seem less brilliant since I've separated them. It could also be the difference n sex? Could be many things including a different species I suppose?So little info available! I did see a pic from the supplier with a tank full of them and there were varying degrees of color.

September 7, 2009
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thx all.. yap I`m from Indonesia... and this fish caught by local fisherman in the my backyard river.. this is another shot..

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September 7, 2009
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Hi hampala where exactly in Indonesia are you from? It might make identification easier. I envy you being able to catch such beauties in your "backyard".

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September 7, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 8 2009, 04:44 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi hampala where exactly in Indonesia are you from? It might make identification easier. I envy you being able to catch such beauties in your "backyard".

yap.. i`m from java island.. this fish at the same habitat too..

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September 8, 2009
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Homaloptera? Which part of Sumatra are you from? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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September 8, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 8 2009, 09:02 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Homaloptera? Which part of Sumatra are you from? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

No.. No.. I`m ini Java island... 450km from jakarta the capital of indonesia...

September 8, 2009
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I'm considering quitting while I'm behind with this thread... /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Sorry for the mistake hampala.

...but I shall not desist! According to the link S. exallisquamulus is from the Maluku islands which extend from East Timor right? Anybody know how widely-distributed it's supposed to be?

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September 8, 2009
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Sorry Matt, can't help you there. I haven't found much info on them. Hampala you may join the yahoo goby group and post your pics/location and see if any of the taxonomists will reply.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/g.....gobygroup/

September 8, 2009
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I should have the description paper tomorrow so maybe that will shed some light. /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

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September 8, 2009
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Great! Please share!! /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

September 9, 2009
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QUOTE (plaamoo @ Sep 9 2009, 03:04 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry Matt, can't help you there. I haven't found much info on them. Hampala you may join the yahoo goby group and post your pics/location and see if any of the taxonomists will reply.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/g.....gobygroup/

thank.. i`ll go check that...

September 12, 2009
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Not much in the paper; the distinguishing features are available on FB and there are no photos of live specimens or description of life colouration. It says that S. exallisquamulus is most similar to S. auxilimentus but that one is from the Philippines which is even further away from Java.

Some interesting discussion here though.

Ps - it seems that the 'lipstick goby' from Sri Lanka, described as jonklaasi by Klausewitz & Henrich in 1986 needs a new name as the name had already been used by Axelrod in 1972 and refers to a completely different fish!

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September 12, 2009
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Thanks Matt, I have that thread from petfrd also. The only conclusion seems to be that there isn't enough info about sicyopus/sicyopterus/stiphodon etc. Lovely fish and something to look forward to!

September 14, 2009
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Yeah I'd guess there are a bunch of similar-looking ones some of which, like this bugger from Java, are undescribed.

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December 28, 2011
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Anyone still keeping this fish? Jim? In the process of putting together a basic profile...

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