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Myxocyprinus Asiaticus
September 9, 2008
5:32 pm
Mark Duffill
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I got some photo's of these some time back, all were juveniles and no bigger than 2"

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They were mistakenly imported by someone I know but they had to be destroyed when it was realised they are illegal and shouldn't have got through customs /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

September 9, 2008
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what gets me Mark, i don't know about your shops but ive seen them in at least 4 shops recently. i know it's one of the banned fish so how are they getting in . looks to me like the airport staff ain't doing their job properly.

ps, have you seen a full grown one of these, they are wierd looking, to say the least.

September 9, 2008
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Haji Badaruddin
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Just curious,why are these fish banned???BTW anybody got a list of fishes that are banned in the UK?


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they ban fish like these because they say they are a danger to our fauna if they were to be released into the waterways.
i had the old list but they've updated it now

oh i forgot as well as letting them loose they are worried they may also be carrying a desease that could get in our waters.

very sad on the fishkeepers part.

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QUOTE (Haji Badaruddin @ Sep 9 2008, 06:45 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious,why are these fish banned???

Here's just one reason >> Big Red One!

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a lot are coming from the czech republic at the moment and are driven to the uk so dont get the same kind of checks that an airfreight shipment of fish would get by customs - also if they come from asia they are often shipped with 'commom names' so customs dont know what they actually are without opening the box and just cant do this with every box on the scale of fish that are imported each week

September 9, 2008
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I have seen them in a few shops as well Mick, I do know that these were looked at by customs because they marked the box and bags as checked and to add to that there was a photo of them on the wall of the customs office /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" />

They came in with their latin name on the list as well as their common name of Hi-fin Shark and they arrived from Singapore.

They are weird looking when fully grown and are also known locally as Turd fish /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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QUOTE (Haji Badaruddin @ Sep 9 2008, 06:45 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just curious,why are these fish banned???BTW anybody got a list of fishes that are banned in the UK?


Heres a whole bunch that are banned for import because they can tolerate temperatures below 15*C, this was in 2006 so quite recent,

Abramis ballerus, Blue bream
Abramis brama, Common bream
Acheilognathus sp., Giant bitterling
Acipenser sp., Sterlets and Sturgeon
Alburnoides bipunctatus, Schneider
Alburnus alburnus, Bleak
Ambloplites rupestris, Rock bass
Ameiurus species, North American catfish
Amia calva, Bowfin
Anguilla sp., Eels
Aphanius apodus, Killifish/Pupfish
Aphanius dispar, Killifish/Pupfish
Aphredoderus sayanus, Pirate perch
Aristichthys/Hypophthalmichthys nobilis, Bighead carp
Aspius aspius, Asp
Barbatula sp., Loach
Barbus sp., Barbel species (excluding tropical barbs)
Beaufortia sp. except B. leveretti, Balitorine loaches
Blicca bjoerkna, Silver bream
Botia supercilliaris, Coldwater clown loach
Carassius auratus, Goldfish (Common and all varieties)
Carassius carassius, Crucian carp
Catostomus commersonii, Common White sucker
Centrarchus macropterus, Sunfish
Chaenobryttus gulosus, Sunfish
Chalcalburnus chalcoides, Danubian Bleak
Channa argus, Northern or Chinese Snakehead
Chlamydogobius eremius, Australian Desert goby
Chondrostoma genei, Laska nase
Chondrostoma nasus , Nase
Chondrostoma toxotoma, Toxostome
Cobitis sp., Cobitid loaches
Cookeolus japonicus, Longfinned Bullseye
Coregonus sp., Whitefish species
Ctenopharyngodon idella, Grass carp
Cycleptus elongatus, Blue sucker
Cyprinus carpio, Carp, Koi, Mirror, King, Common, Leather, Ghost
Dzihunia sp., Loach
Elassoma sp. - except E. evergladeii, Sunfish
Enneacanthus sp. - except E. chaetodon, Sunfish
Esox sp., Pike
Etheostoma sp., Darters
Fundulus diaphanus, Banded Killifish
Garra pingi pingi, Garra pingi pingi
Gasterosteus sp., Sticklebacks
Gobio gobio, Gudgeon
Hucho sp., Danubian Salmon and Taimen
Huso sp., Sturgeon/Sterlet
Hypophthalmichthys molitrix, Silver carp
Ictaluris sp., North American catfish
Jordanella sp. - except J. floridae, Flagfish
Koreocobitis sp., Loach
Lates calcarifer, Barramundi
Lefua sp., Loach
Lepisosteus oculatus, Spotted gar
Lepisosteus osseus, Longnose gar
Lepomis sp., Sunfish (including Pumpkinseed, Basses, crappies and bluegills)
Leptobotia sp., Loach
Leucaspis delineatus, Heckel's dace
Leucaspius delineatus, Sunbleak (Sundace, Belica, Motherless Minnow)
Leuciscus idus, Orfe, Golden, Black, Blue
Leuciscus leuciscus, Dace
Leuciscus souffia, Blageon
Leusiscus cephalus, Chub
Lota lota, Burbot
Macroramphosus scolopax, Snipefish
Micropterus dolomieu, Small mouthed Bass
Micropterus salmoides, Large-mouthed black Bass
Misgurnis sp. - except M. anguillicaudatus (includes M. fossilis), Loach
Morone sp., Bass species and hybrids
Mylopharyngodon piceus, Carp, Chinese Black or Snail eating
Myxocyprinus asiaticus, Chinese Sucker, also known as Zebra hi-fin or banded shark/sucker
Noemacheilus sp. - except N. masyai, N. fasciatus, N. selangoricus, Loach
Notropis/Cyprinella, Shiners
Onchorynchus sp., Salmon, Trout
Oreonectes sp. - except O. platycephalus and O.anophthalmus, Loach
Orthrias sp., Loach
Parabotia maculosa, Loach
Paracobitis sp., Loach
Pelteobagrus brashnikowi, Amur Dragon Catfish
Pelteobagrus fulvidraco, Catfish, Dragon (Yellow catfish)
Perca sp., Perch species
Phoxinus phoxinus, Minnow
Phoxinus/Chrosomus eos, Dace, Northern red belly (Common Minnow)
Pimephales promelas, Minnow, Fathead/Roseyred
Polyodon and Psephurus sp., Paddlefish
Polyprius americanus, Wreckfish
Pseudogastromyzon sp. - except P.loos, P. buas, P. doon, P. elongatus, P.myersi, P. fabgi, P. fasciatus, P. meihuashanensis, P. peristicus, Loach
Pseudorasbora parva, Topmouth Gudgeon (Clicker Barb)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus sp., Sturgeon/Sterlet
Rhinichthys atratulus, Blacknose Dace
Rhodeus ocellatus, Stripeshoulder Bitterling
Rhodeus sericeus, Rhodeus amarus, European Bitterling
Rutilus rutilus, Roach
Sabanejewia sp., Loach
Salmo sp., Salmon, Trout
Salvelinus sp., Charr
Sander/ Stizostedion sp., Pike perch (including zander)
Sarcochilicthys sinensis, Gudgeon, Chinese Lake (Amur Sucker)
Scaphirhynchus sp., Sturgeon/Sterlet
Scardinius erythrophthalmus, Rudd, Common, Silver, Gold
Schistura species - please consult with the FHI at Cefas if you are considering importing any Schistura species new to trade, many Schistura species are tolerant of cold water temperatures, Loach
Seminemacheilus sp., Loach
Silurus sp., Catfish
Siniperca chuatsi, Freshwater Grouper
Thymallus thymallus, Grayling
Tiaroga sp., Loach
Tinca tinca, Tench, Common, Green, Golden
Tor khudree, Deccan Mahseer
Tor mosal, Copper Mahseer
Tor musullah, Humpback Mahseer
Tor progeneius, Jungha Mahseer
Tor putitora, Yellowfin or Golden Mahseer
Tor tor, Redfin Mahseer
Triplophysa sp. - except T. gracilis, T. microps, T. marmorata, T. yasinensis, Loach
Umbra sp., Mudminnow
Valencia letourneuxi, Corfu Toothcarp
Vimba vimba, Vimba
Zacco platypus, Dragon fish (also known as Pale Chub or Freshwater minnow)
Zacco temmincki, Taiwan Zacco
All species of Crayfish except Cherax quadricarinatus

And from this list > http://www.practicalfishkeepin.....co.uk/pfk/...?article_id=106

> Abramis ballerus, Blue bream
> Acipenser sp., Huso sp., Scaphirhynchus sp., Pseudoscaphirhynchus sp. and hybrids (sterlets and sturgeons)
> Alburnoides bipunctatus, Schneider
> Ambloplites rupestris, Rock bass
> Ameiurus sp. (coldwater ameiurid catfishes, including the bullhead, Ameirus nebulosus)
> Aspius aspius, Asp
> Chalcaburnus chalcoides,
Danubian bleak
> Chrondrostoma nasus, Nase
> Chrondrostoma toxostoma, Toxostome or French nase
> Ctenopharyngodon idella, Grass carp
> Hypophthalmichthys molitrix,
Silver carp
> Ictalurus sp. (coldwater ictalurid catfishes, including the Channel catfish, Ictalurus punctatus)
> Leuciscus souffia, Blageon
> Lota lota, Burbot
> Micropterus salmoides, Large mouthed bass
> Mylopharyngodon piceus, Black
or Snail-eating carp
> Oncorhynchus mykiss (Rainbow
trout or Steelhead)
> Oncorhynchus sp. (Pacific trout)
> Polyodon spathula and Psephurus gladius (paddlefishes)
> Pseudorasbora parva, Clicker barb
or Topmouth gudgeon
> Rhodeus sericeus, Bitterling
> Salmo salar (Non-anadromous, landlocked Salmon)
> Silurus sp. (coldwater silurid catfishes including the Wels,
Silurus glanis)
> Stizostedion sp., Zander
> Vimba vimba, Vimba

Which ones are in the amendment for England?

> Barbus sp. (Barbel species, excluding the native Barbus barbus)
> Catostomus commersoni, Common white sucker
> Channa argus, Northern snakehead
> Coregonus sp. (Whitefishes, excluding the native species C. lavaretus and C. albula)
> Cycleptus elongatus, Blue sucker
> Cyprinella (Notropsis) lutrensis, Red shiner or Rainbow dace
> Esox sp. (Pikes, excluding the native E. lucius)
> Hucho sp. (Danubian Salmon or Taimen)
> Lepomis sp. (Pumpkinseeds,
sunfish, sunbass, crappies, bluegills
and other Lepo
mis sp.)
> Leucaspius delineatus, Motherless minnow
> Misgurnus fossilis, Weather loach
> Morone sp. (Striped bass, White bass and Morone hybrids)
> Myxocyprinus asiaticus, Chinese sailfin sucker
> Perca sp. (Perch species excluding the native P. fluviatilis)
> Phoxinus (Chrosomus) eos, Northern red-belly dace
> Phoxinus (Chrosomus) erythrogaster, Southern red-belly dace
> Pimephales promelas, Rosy red minnow or Fathead minnow
> Rhinichthys atratulus, Blacknose dace
> Salmo marmoratus (Marbled trout)
> Salvelinus sp. (Charr species, including the American Brook trout, but excluding the native Salvelinus alpinus)
> Umbra krameri, European mudminnow
> Umbra pygmaea, Eastern mudminnow
> Zacco platypus, Pale chub

There's alot of loaches in that list /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

September 9, 2008
10:59 pm
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Introduced Koi have devistated wild populations of M. asiaticus.

A similar looking, but thinner built, fish, with a ridicolously long scientific name, was available in the U.K. as the Sgt. Major loach. Remember watching a programme on CCTV's 'Nature and science' series in which these fish were been commercially bred in a cave environment.

Regards David

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and more to come by december 2010 from what i've read. including many of the gouramis. mainly because of diseases they are carrying. such a shame as there are some fab fish on those lists. but i still wonder how many of them are still making it to the UK. i've even seen some of these listed on ebay.co.uk.

September 9, 2008
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think they lost on this one...

Carassius auratus, Goldfish (Common and all varieties)

bet you can find them all over the globe

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Something in the diet or sexual difference that's responsible for that colouration in your link Graeme? I've only ever seen pics of adults with a kind of brownish colour before:

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