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Outside For Summer?
March 22, 2011
10:32 am
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Hello All
Advice required i have several large water containers 8x3/350 ltr 2x1000ltr and several smaller 100ltrs volumes are approx ranging in depth from 12/30 inches
I have a choice of Aphanius and Goodeids to choose from but which would do best?
tried Zoogeneticus quitzeoensis,Goodea atripinnis looked good at the end of summer but no fry
Aphanius namak,danfordii plenty eggs A.vladykovi didn't do well so any advice or experience with any of the following
my choices

Aphanius,Anatolie,Danfordii,Iberus,Vladikovi,Villvoki'Persicus,Transgrediens,Mento,Dispar
Dispar richardsoni,Namak,Fasciata

Goodeids
Allodontichthys tamazulae,zonistus
Allotoca dugesii
Chapalichthys pardalis
Characodon audax El toboso, Durango, mexico
Characodon lateralis los berros, Durango, mexico
Characodon lataralis sp. Guadalupe Aguilera mexico
Girardinichthys viviparous D. lambert collection 1989
Girardinichthys multiradiatus
Goodea atripinnis lago patzcuaro
Xenotoca eiseni san marcos
Xenotaenia Resolanae
Xenoophorus captivus
Zoogoneticus tequila rio teuchitlan. Jalisco, mexico
Zoogoneticus quintzeoensis la luz mexico
Zoogoneticus quintzeoensis lake chapala
Skiffia v188
Skiffia bilineata

other
Oryzias,javanicus,latipes,wowarae
Fundulus cingulatus
thank you and sorry for the long post

March 22, 2011
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Not sure about the goodeids but A. iberus should do ok. I say 'should' as I've no idea how the lower summer temperature in the UK might affect their life cycle. Having seen them spawning here in spring and autumn though I suspect it might just be growth rate that shows any change.

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March 22, 2011
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Cheers Matt would you put them in a deep 30inchx30 inch or shallow 12inch tub x48 inch

March 23, 2011
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Either or I guess. All mine are in less than 12" of water.

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April 11, 2011
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So what did you decide Nigel? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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April 11, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Apr 11 2011, 08:17 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what did you decide Nigel? /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Just started collecting some eggs from the namak river that were overwintered in the conservatory
But it is only 10 tubs running at the moment will try and squeeze more in as i go
my list
iberus Fra ramon or peniscola
namak(overwintered in conservatory)
danfordii(overwintered in conservatory)
fasciata
mento zengen or orantes river
dispar or dispar richardsoni
transgrediens or villwocki
persicus or vladykovi
Fundulus cingulatus
will start putting a few more out in the coming weeks

April 11, 2011
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After getting several reports of Goodeids outside for the summer not been too successful,i will use tubs in the greenhouse for growing fry on

April 12, 2011
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The A. transgrediens seem particularly tolerant of lower temperatures and mine were active and breeding before my other fish the last two years. Guessing A. iberus will be similar.

Planning an upgrade myself soon so please keep this updated Nigel. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

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April 18, 2011
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Got a few tubs planted and half filled with water a good load of livefood now in most containers,will try and picture the fish i am putting out before release
so far i have got
8 mento zengen
8 danfordii soysali
8 iberus peniscola
8 namak river
all in 50 ltr tubs in unheated conservatory acclimatising,will post more pics as i get them ready
70ltr /230ltr/250ltr
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April 18, 2011
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Looking very good Nigel! Hoping to purchase my upgrades this coming weekend if anything in Spain is open!

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April 18, 2011
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How about some Macropodus spechti (prev. concolor)? They can even be found in northeast Russia.

April 18, 2011
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This is strange 2 people have now reccommended Macropodus to me in as many days.unfortunately i want to keep working with my Goodeids and Aphanius with the odd other fish creeping in occasionally
but never say never

April 22, 2011
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Try the A. persicus, they are the first ones that start breeding here, even at 9 ºC last year.

A. vladykovi should do ok as well, they take very low temperatures.

Not sure about A. fasciatus, not entirely happy with them, although they stand all year round outdoors here.

Never had good results with goodeids, our summer is far too hot for them.

Good luck!

Manuel...

April 22, 2011
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First lot of fish now outside
mento zengen
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Next batch of vladykovi,persicus,anatolie in the temporary tubs acclimatising

April 22, 2011
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Very cool. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> The sp. Namak female looks like a monster!

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April 23, 2011
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Yes Matt she is a bit of a beast.just hatched the first eggs from them so don't feel too anxious about putting them out,although they have overwintered without heat.

QUOTE (Matt @ Apr 22 2011, 07:19 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very cool. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> The sp. Namak female looks like a monster!

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