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Poecilia Wingei black Endler Pond, Vap 04
January 16, 2009
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Finally got the flash for my camera sorted out again so I took som pictures for fun today:

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Young Poecilia wingei male showing off.

And a shot of a Biotoecus opercularis male as a bonus:

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January 16, 2009
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Super nice oaken /happy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="^_^" border="0" alt="happy.gif" />

January 16, 2009
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great photos. fantastic colours on the endler. tfs

January 16, 2009
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Thanks guys /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 16, 2009
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Those are great pics!

What camera did you use?

January 16, 2009
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Jan 16 2009, 02:36 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those are great pics!

What camera did you use?

Thanks /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Just an old Canon 10D, hence the noisy pictures. With a Tamron 90mm F/2.8 macro lens and a Dörr flash on top of the tank.

January 16, 2009
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Some friday photos:

Parosphromenus linkei male

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Parosphromenus linkei female

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And here they are, sneaking in the bushes!

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At last a young Betta uberis "Pangkalanbun" male.

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January 16, 2009
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Wonderful shots Gustav! /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> You keep some really nice species. I had the Biotoecus until a year and a half or so ago and think it has such an understated beauty.

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January 17, 2009
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Thanks Matt. Did you manage to breed your Biotoecus? Mine haven't showed any signs of spawning behaviour yet, i've had them for about 8 months or so now. Although I kept them in a small tank with tap water for half of that time due to not having enough space.

Also feel free to you any pictures you want for the knowledge base /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 18, 2009
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Great I certainly will cheers Gustav. /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

I didn't breed the Biotoecus unfortunately mate. I only had them a couple of months and they went with the rest of my fish when I closed down my old fish room in England. They were absolutely tiny when they arrived so I never quite got them to adult size. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> Best of luck with yours though you lucky so and so! What water conditions do you have them in now?

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January 18, 2009
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Okay, mine were fortunately pretty big when I got them, my largest male is probably close to 10cm long. Right now they're in pH around 4,2-4,5 (haven't measured since last water change so not sure and a temperature of about 24-25C. Haven't been able to measure conductivity yet but I guess lowering the conductivity might be one of the keys to get them to breed, or at least I hope so.

January 20, 2009
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Could be yep. I reckon you could push the temperature up a few degrees as well. Are you using peat at all? All the breeding reports I've read suggested that peat was a crucial factor. Have you seen the Biotoecus sp. "New Tapajos" yet? Stunning little thing.

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January 20, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jan 20 2009, 01:43 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could be yep. I reckon you could push the temperature up a few degrees as well. Are you using peat at all? All the breeding reports I've read suggested that peat was a crucial factor. Have you seen the Biotoecus sp. "New Tapajos" yet? Stunning little thing.

I'm actually using peat as substrate in this tank, something I normally just do with killies and Bettas but I figured I'd give it a shot. But then again most of the good stuff has probably leached out of it by now. And yeah, I agree with you about the temperature, just haven't came around to do it yet. So I better start making some RO-water and filter it through peat I guess.

And yes, I've seen the "New Tapajos", very nice fish.

January 23, 2009
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That P. linkei is incredible oaken. The "black endler" is a fascinating little creature too.

Where did you buy those fishes?

January 24, 2009
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Gustav is the B. uberis confirmed? The ones I've seen before have always been a more uniform red colour...

Edit: S'ok ignore me. Just checked the species description and it seems the males are quite variable depending on locality. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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January 25, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jan 24 2009, 01:46 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gustav is the B. uberis confirmed? The ones I've seen before have always been a more uniform red colour...

Edit: S'ok ignore me. Just checked the species description and it seems the males are quite variable depending on locality. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Hehe, well like I think I said mine are from Pangkalanbun, they have lots of blue in them, especially when breeding. Most males also have a blotch, but it seems not all of the males have this.

And actually the colours in that picture turned out pretty dull, they look more like this really:

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But they're pretty hard to take good pictures of, especially in a semi-dark tank /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

January 25, 2009
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QUOTE (dunc @ Jan 23 2009, 06:25 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
That P. linkei is incredible oaken. The "black endler" is a fascinating little creature too.

Where did you buy those fishes?

The P. wingei originally were imported from http://www.swampriveraquatics.com to Holland I think, and then they somehow made it to Sweden as well, so I got them from a breeder here. Also have another P. wingei from Laguna De Los Patos. The P. linkei came from the same guy, although they are wild caught and not tank bred.

January 26, 2009
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Wow the Pangkalanbun uberis is a stunner and no mistake. I shall be appropriating your pic for the knowledge base Gustav mate. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Here's a pic of a blotchless/solid red male by Stefan van der Voort for comparison, kindly donated by him for the same cause. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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January 26, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jan 26 2009, 12:45 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow the Pangkalanbun uberis is a stunner and no mistake. I shall be appropriating your pic for the knowledge base Gustav mate. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> Here's a pic of a blotchless/solid red male by Stefan van der Woort for comparison, kindly donated by him for the same cause. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Yeah, they are great fish. Easy to breed as well, dont need a low pH as long as water is soft it seems. Gonna try to get a picture of my big male, he got a nasty infection in one of his eyes though, so now hes one eyed. But he's still a stunning fish with really long fin extensions /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

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That'd be lovely Gustav. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> What pH did you breed them in if you don't mind me asking?

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