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Polycanthus sota
September 9, 2011
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Hi! I have recently collected and seen this fish (Polycanthus sota) in Meghalaya, hope u will like the picture.

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September 9, 2011
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I think Polycanthus sota is a synonym of Colisa chuna but what you have there looks more like Colisa lalia (Trichogaster lalius if you go down that route?)

September 9, 2011
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Yep, agree with Colin, and great to see such a nice wild specimen compared with the cr*p sold in shops over here. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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September 9, 2011
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yep nice to see a wild type /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> quite a pinched nose compared to some i have seen. I actually got in a stack of wilds last year and they were really tricky to sell, seems most people prefer the mad-made rubbish lol

September 9, 2011
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You're joking right? /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

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September 9, 2011
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QUOTE (Colin @ Sep 9 2011, 04:24 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Polycanthus sota is a synonym of Colisa chuna but what you have there looks more like Colisa lalia (Trichogaster lalius if you go down that route?)

Yes Polycanthys is synonym of Colisa , but the species is sota and not lalia. The three species viz colisa fasciatus, colisa sota and colisa lalia looks similar and it is difficult to identify especially between colisa fasciatus and colisa sota . I have identified it according to the standard guides. Trichogaster has got broad mouth and lips etc than compared to colisa.

September 9, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 9 2011, 02:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're joking right? /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

No, took ages - about four month to sell on about 20 of them!

September 9, 2011
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well, this is certainly why I am against all of the name changes that go on in this hobby/scientific area.

Colisa, Polycanthus, Trichogaster, lalia, chuna, sota, lalius

anyone know what we call them them this week?

September 12, 2011
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As far as I understand it all species that were previously considered Colisa are now in Trichogaster with all former Trichogaster moved to Trichopodus.

Rio78, as Colin said, P. sota is synonymous with T. chuna rather than T. fasciata.

Are these fish plentiful in your area? It would be great to see a photo or two of the natural habitat if you have any?

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September 12, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 12 2011, 01:47 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as I understand it all species that were previously considered Colisa are now in Trichogaster with all former Trichogaster moved to Trichopodus.

Rio78, as Colin said, P. sota is synonymous with T. chuna rather than T. fasciata.

Are these fish plentiful in your area? It would be great to see a photo or two of the natural habitat if you have any?

yes, please see some photos I am attaching as per ur request.

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September 20, 2011
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QUOTE (Rio78 @ Sep 12 2011, 07:03 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes, please see some photos I am attaching as per ur request.

today added few more habitat photos.

September 20, 2011
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Ooh thanks! Any chance of detailing which species were encountered at each locality??

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September 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 21 2011, 04:06 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ooh thanks! Any chance of detailing which species were encountered at each locality??

yes, we have published a paper on this plz ck
http://ichthyology.tau.ac.il/2.....amaDey.pdf

September 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Rio78 @ Sep 21 2011, 07:33 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes, we have published a paper on this plz ck
http://ichthyology.tau.ac.il/2.....amaDey.pdf

at present, I am surveying more and trying to find if can get any new species but till not did not get any but got some Garra species, which I could I dentify only upto genus but species could not be identified.

I also visited Siju cave in Garo Hills in Meghalaya, which runs inside around 10 km to collect any cave fish but did not have any proper equipment and knowledge to go inside a cave and also there were current fish of more than a meter to 6m size as told me by the local fishermans which can kill a person, so did not take much risk to go further. I went inside little more than half a kilometer after which the water level started to rise and it was very rocky inside with knife like stones and completely dark to walk safely.

I will attach some of the cave photos, to get some idea and if anyone can suggest how to go in next time.

September 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Rio78 @ Sep 21 2011, 07:49 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
at present, I am surveying more and trying to find if can get any new species but till not did not get any but got some Garra species, which I could I dentify only upto genus but species could not be identified.

I also visited Siju cave in Garo Hills in Meghalaya, which runs inside around 10 km to collect any cave fish but did not have any proper equipment and knowledge to go inside a cave and also there were current fish of more than a meter to 6m size as told me by the local fishermans which can kill a person, so did not take much risk to go further. I went inside little more than half a kilometer after which the water level started to rise and it was very rocky inside with knife like stones and completely dark to walk safely.

I will attach some of the cave photos, to get some idea and if anyone can suggest how to go in next time.

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September 21, 2011
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the eighth picture is of the water coming out of the cave to join the Simsang river.

September 22, 2011
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Can't help with the caving advice, but your work is really interesting! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Do you have any photos of the Garra, and is the Simsang River also known as the Someshwari?

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September 22, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ Sep 22 2011, 01:51 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't help with the caving advice, but your work is really interesting! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Do you have any photos of the Garra, and is the Simsang River also known as the Someshwari?

yes, Someshwari River in Bangladesh (also spelt Someswari), known as Simsang River in the Indian state of Meghalaya, is a major river in the Garo Hills of Meghalaya and Netrakona District of Bangladesh. It divides the Garo Hills into two parts. Locally (in India) known as Simsang, the river starts from Nokrek peak and runs towards east, passing through Rongrengiri, Williamnagar, the headquarters of East Garo Hills district, Nongalbibra, Siju, Rewak and finally Baghmara, the headquarters of South Garo Hills district. The chief tributaries are Chibok, Rongdik, Rompa and Ringdi rivers. The river has many scenic waterfalls in Meghalaya.
In Bangladesh it flows through the Susang-Durgapur and other areas of Netrakona District till it flows into the Kangsha River. A branch of the river flows towards Kalmakanda and meets the Balia River. Another branch of the river flows into the haor areas of Sunamganj District and flows into the Surma River. It is one of Bangladesh's trans-boundary rivers.

The Garra photos I had taken once but it was not clear so I deleted, I can post it after I take again.

I can post some photos of Simsang River if u r interested to see.

September 22, 2011
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Of course! /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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