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Possible Galaxy Rasbora Variants
April 29, 2008
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A friend works at one of the better shops in the country and Celestichthys margaritatus "red spot" and "orange spot" have just appeared on her suppliers' list. Have any of you guys heard anything about these? Having worked in the trade for a while and seen some of the crazy names that suppliers manufacture to make fish more saleable my sceptical side is saying that they will be selling males as "red spot" and females as "orange spot", but I suppose you never know. We've already ruled out Microrasbora rubescens by the way.

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April 29, 2008
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I wonder if it's line breeding or natural? I know my LFS was getting some galaxy rasboras in last week, so I may pop down for anosy come the weekend.

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April 29, 2008
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Interesting point Eyrie. I'm fairly sure these aren't being produced commercially in massive numbers though. I forgot to mention, the "red spots" are more expensive. What's your lfs?

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April 29, 2008
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I use OutsideInside Aquatics down at Haddington. Guy knows his stuff and always has an interesting selection of fish in. None of the LFSs in Edinburgh are anywhere near as good, so it's a worthwhile 40 mile round trip.

That said, I do use the [email protected] next to my office for food /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

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April 29, 2008
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i tend to agree with you Matt. just another gimmick, or are these indeed new fish on the market. if so, then i hope for gods sake they keep the collection area a better secret than they did with the galaxy.

April 29, 2008
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Apparently there was an article in TFH last year that discussed the species existing in two colour forms. Any subscribers here? Yeah Keith they made a right mess of the original habitat didn't they? /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

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April 30, 2008
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i didn't see that article. i knew they had 2 habitats, but that's all.
be interesting to see what the experts think of these 'new' ones.

May 29, 2008
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Finally pics! Well, a pic of what was ordered as the "red spot" variety by my friend. They look just like the ones I was breeding to me ie. the "standard" fish. What does everyone think?

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May 29, 2008
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looks just like the 'normal' ones - they are probably producing them in asia now in numbers so it may be something to do with size? (ie orange ones being smaller) or quality? or even may be crossed with something else? or a diff species for the orange that they are hoping to get people to buy cos they know they wouldnt if they had the latin name?

May 30, 2008
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The other thing that I was thinking is that these all look male to me. The female is less-brightly coloured and has orange in the fins. The difference is obvious in this pic. Female on the right:

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I wonder if they're just separating the sexes to get a better price on the males?

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May 30, 2008
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after seeing that pic i think youll be 100 % right

July 26, 2008
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I keep these to. The males are significantly brighter as you suggest. And having also worked in the trade and seen how "common names" are dreampt up (Suggestions banded about an office), I'm inclined to agree with Matt. Unless anyone has any different information? I reckon the "red spots" will be males and "orange spots" female.

July 27, 2008
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At the risk of sounding Completely Ignorant, this pretty fish looks more like a danio to me in body shape. Reminds me of a leopard danio with a different spot color, and like a zebra danio with the blue body color. With Danios sometimes the darker fish is the female.

July 27, 2008
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QUOTE (Reva @ Jul 27 2008, 08:03 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
At the risk of sounding Completely Ignorant, this pretty fish looks more like a danio to me in body shape. Reminds me of a leopard danio with a different spot color, and like a zebra danio with the blue body color. With Danios sometimes the darker fish is the female.

Galaxy rasboras have now been renamed Celestial danios. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

July 27, 2008
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Yes and at least one person has attempted to move it to the genus Danio from its current position as the sole member of Celestichthys. As far as I know the latter is still valid though. It's definitely closely-related to Danio Reva.

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July 27, 2008
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jul 27 2008, 02:51 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes and at least one person has attempted to move it to the genus Danio from its current position as the sole member of Celestichthys. As far as I know the latter is still valid though. It's definitely closely-related to Danio Reva.

I believe it is now Danio Margaritatus-Celestial Pearl Danio.

Here is a link to PFK article. http://www.practicalfishkeepin.....co.uk/pfk/...m.php?news=1538undefined

July 27, 2008
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Hey boyneburn yes it was suggested earlier this year but as far as I know hasn't been officially adopted. It's still classified as Celestichthys according to Fishbase. Anyone else know anything about this?

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July 28, 2008
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that url I posted was of this fish spawning /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

glad I'm not completely crackers...sure looks like a danio to me

July 28, 2008
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Question, on previous stock lists they've just beed called Galaxy Rasbora's but on the new list they have some named as Galaxy Rasbora "fire cracker" Is this just another example of wholesalers making up names? Probably from what people above have typed. No photo's as they haven't been ordered yet but are on the list to order.
Your thoughts please /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

July 28, 2008
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Sounds like they're just trying to shift more units by changing the name slightly Richy mate. I remember when they were first imported they came in as "fireworks rasbora".

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