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Puntius ID help please
January 24, 2011
1:18 pm
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Matt
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Some pics to add to the database. Confirmations or denials on these much appreciated!

Young P. orphoides?

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P. trifasciatus?

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P. binotatus?

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Female P. tiantian?

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Cake or death?
January 24, 2011
1:21 pm
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Now this one came labelled as P. sp. cf. terio...

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...but I think it might be the same as this, labelled P. sp. 'Yunnan'?

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...and finally this which I've no idea about:

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Cake or death?
January 24, 2011
7:35 pm
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Hi Matt I'd agree on the first pic being a young Orphodes !

The second and third fishes {striped barbs ] there is a paper that depicts the different members of that group ,might be worth checking ,its quite detailed !

I'd say the one labelled as Terio is correct ,the males get a reddish lateral band when well conditioned , note the one side spot !

The fish you thought could be the same isn't ,its one of the Ticto's /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

The last fish looks like a P.vattatus , a very nicely coloured one /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

January 24, 2011
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I've seen and kept the fish labelled Binotatus ,one of my books on Thai fishes shows a very similar looking fish under the name P.rhombeus they look very close to your pic ,so I guess thai fish is a bit enigmatic ?

The Tiantian looks like a Tiantian ?

Wouldn't it be great if the scientists had lab technicians who could condition the fishes and take photo's of both live and dead , male and female specimens /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

Certainly Tiantian and Didi would benefit from such a program !

January 25, 2011
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Andy, there are stories regarding scientists who failed to recognise living examples of animals they classified themselves as dead specimens in the lab! I think that there is an example of that in CRUSTACEA GUIDE OF THE WORLD by Helmut Debelius.

I think it would help in a lot of cases but apparently expensive to add pics to papers?

January 25, 2011
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QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jan 24 2011, 08:18 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The second and third fishes {striped barbs ] there is a paper that depicts the different members of that group ,might be worth checking ,its quite detailed !

I have the paper hence my guess at P. trifasciatus as it's the only one with 3-4 body stripes in adults.

QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jan 24 2011, 08:18 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd say the one labelled as Terio is correct ,the males get a reddish lateral band when well conditioned , note the one side spot

The fish you thought could be the same isn't ,its one of the Ticto's /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Aha yeah I see - additional dark spot behind the opercle right?

QUOTE (andy rushworth @ Jan 24 2011, 08:18 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
The last fish looks like a P.vattatus , a very nicely coloured one /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

Do you mean P. vittatus Andy?

Cake or death?
January 25, 2011
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No surprises really Col /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Yeah matt /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

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