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Question About Angel-fish.
March 28, 2009
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Hello my friends. I am hoping to get my self in the near future some angel-fish, but before I do that (in a couple of weeks or maybe even months) I would like to know more about them. I have read KB, but I hope someone who had/has them would like to tell me more. Is there anyone with experiences with angels? Advice and suggetions are very welcome. /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

March 29, 2009
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Liz please don't read the angel profile at the moment I honestly have no idea what it says and the entire cichlid bit of the site needs sorting out. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

Anyway presuming your angels will be tank-bred there really isn't a lot to say. You'll need a fairly big tank and I'd advise buying at least 6 small ones if you want to get a pair. They're pretty adaptable as far as water goes. Try to find some with decent finnage as a lot of the ones on sale these days tend to be deformed in one way or another, blame inbreeding/hybridisation for that.

Wild fish are more expensive and trickier to keep so I'd go for the tank-breds to start off with.

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March 29, 2009
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Hey Lizzie

Visit the Ryedale Aquarist Society website articles section. 'Angels at Christmas' and 'Reply to Angels at Christmas' will be good starting points.

http://www.ryedaleaquaristsociety.co.uk

Regards David

March 29, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 29 2009, 11:46 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liz please don't read the angel profile at the moment I honestly have no idea what it says and the entire cichlid bit of the site needs sorting out. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

Anyway presuming your angels will be tank-bred there really isn't a lot to say. You'll need a fairly big tank and I'd advise buying at least 6 small ones if you want to get a pair. They're pretty adaptable as far as water goes. Try to find some with decent finnage as a lot of the ones on sale these days tend to be deformed in one way or another, blame inbreeding/hybridisation for that.

Wild fish are more expensive and trickier to keep so I'd go for the tank-breds to start off with.

Too late, Matt. As a faith-ful fan, that is exactly where I started my researche /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />
I am not planning to breed. I just want to enjoy watching them.
In my ideal world they have to be white (or silver) or gold, no lines or what ever. As simple as possible, a bit Zen-like. To start with they will have a tank of 70x40x40(cm). That tank today houses the so called "pondies" that will move to a pond as soon as the temperature allows it. Then I will clean the tank and start the complete aqauarium-protocol for the angels, with lots of plants and soft purple/pink light and preferably black sand. But it is not some sort of competition. I keep fish just for their beauty and their companionship. /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

March 29, 2009
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QUOTE (David Marshall @ Mar 29 2009, 12:35 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Lizzie

Visit the Ryedale Aquarist Society website articles section. 'Angels at Christmas' and 'Reply to Angels at Christmas' will be good starting points.

http://www.ryedaleaquaristsociety.co.uk

Regards David

I have been there, David. It was very helpful en I enjoyed reading it. I might be back to read some of the other articles. Thanks so very much. /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

March 29, 2009
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Hi Liz, what size tank are you thinking of for your angels?, the bigger the better imo.
Matt said a good point about checking the finnage as there's loads of bad finnage angels out there. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

mick

March 29, 2009
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QUOTE (mickthefish @ Mar 29 2009, 03:50 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Liz, what size tank are you thinking of for your angels?, the bigger the better imo.
Matt said a good point about checking the finnage as there's loads of bad finnage angels out there. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

mick


Hi Mick. It's an old aquarium I found somewhere at a garage-sale. It's 70x40x40 cm. But that is only temporal, because I have plans to get myself a tank that's somewhat higher. I believe in "growing with the evolution" if you know what I mean. The larger the fish-needs, the larger their resident. I was thinking about putting them in the tropical community tank for the time being, when they are still so small. Because there are house-moving plans. Once that is done I could restart the old tank the pondies are in now (70x40x40 cm) and when the tank is in balance (and hopefully staying) I could put in the angels. With in the back of my head that higher aquarium, but I have to save some money for that first. That's the plan. Give me your opinion, please. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

March 29, 2009
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Honestly Liz I think your tank is way too small for angels although there are a few dwarf cichlids that might be alright. Sorry hun.

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March 29, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Mar 29 2009, 04:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly Liz I think your tank is way too small for angels although there are a few dwarf cichlids that might be alright. Sorry hun.


Oh No! /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />
That hurts! /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />
But I am so glad you said that now. Because I wouldn't know what to do if I already had them. So, thanks so very much. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

March 30, 2009
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Well, I am behind in replying, but for a small tank, I really like honey gouramis. They are shy and peaceful and very pretty, with ventral feelers like angels.

but if you have a big enough tank, I love the new Koi angels that are white, black and gold marble. I also love black veils. I have always been successful in picking a male and a female even when little, by sitting up close on a stool (yes in the fish store..LOL), and looking at the angle , or lack thereof between ventrals and anal fin. Females are almost straight horizontal and a bit wider. Same size males have a shorter space and a diagonal angle between the ventrals and anal fin. In a tank of babies the females always look studier somehow too.

I know that's mumbo jumbo to the scientist guys, but I have had several breeding pairs that started out smaller than my thumbprint /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

March 30, 2009
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Thanks Reva! I'm a bit confused right now, I was going for a larger aquarium anyway and I thought I had said that somewhere on this board. Anyway, I have Googled out ome dwarf-gourami info and pictures and I must say they have their charms too. I am not sure what to do, but I am grateful for your opinion. Namasté.

March 30, 2009
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these are the ones I am talking about. I have them in my 37gallon(US) with a variety of tiny tetras, and they are very charming. Perhaps if you get angels while small and then move them to a big tank later, you could have honey gouramis in the smaller tank then. /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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