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Questions On Garra
June 17, 2009
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Matt
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Here we go again. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

Anyone have the Kullander and Fang paper in which G. flavatra and a bunch of other Myanmarese (spelling?) species were described? If not this genus will have to wait a couple of weeks 'til I get paid and can order a copy from Pfeil...

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June 17, 2009
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I had it but the portable hard drive it was on fried itself /angry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry:" border="0" alt="angry.gif" />

I have sent a couple of emails out to see if I can get hold of a copy /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

June 17, 2009
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Fantastic, fingers crossed then!

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June 19, 2009
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In addition to the Garra flavatra papers I will send Garra arupi and Garra findolabium papers /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

There are a few papers here Matt, if you scroll down to 2008 there are quite a few Puntius papers /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

June 19, 2009
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Oooh fantastic Mark I shall have a proper sift through there after lunch. /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> That's cheered me up as the Tan and Kottelat paper is killing me (in a good way!). Think I'm going to have to delete the Rasbora sumatrana profile completely... /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

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June 19, 2009
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Have a look at this paper Matt - fishes of the Batang Hari drainage it is a big paper /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

June 19, 2009
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That's the one I'm reading mate. Check the Leptobarbus thread. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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June 25, 2009
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What foods have you guys found your flavatra to prefer? Mine loved bloodworm, chopped prawn, sinking tablets etc. but wouldn't really touch cucumber or other fresh veggies. Is that generally the case?

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June 27, 2009
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Don't like to do this but...bump! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

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June 29, 2009
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Mine eat just about anything that is put in the tank Matt, they do like the white and black midge larvae and really seem to enjoy JMC catfish pellets but I dont think they are exactly fussy.

July 7, 2009
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Got hold of the paper. Interesting that G. flavatra was mostly collected from slow-moving or stagnant pools in rivers with low water level. I guess these must be seasonal but have written to Ralf Britz to see if he can help with further info.

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July 7, 2009
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Sorry more questions. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> For those that have their G. flavatra in groups, how do you find they behave with one another? I kept mine singly and it used to have some wee battles with the Sewellia although they never really harmed each other and it ignored the Schistura completely. Be interested to know if they concentrate more on one another or still have a do with similar-looking tankmates in a group?

How does everyone rate this fish for community aquaria in general?

Does anyone here keep more than a single Garra species in the same tank?

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July 7, 2009
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I have a group of 5 flavatra and they are very placid towards other fish in the tank and 90% of the time they are fine with each other, occasionally they do have little spats with each other but nothing to bad and I havent had them do any harm to each other.

I know Mick did have some problems once with flavatra.

I never see any real interaction between the flavatra and other fish, I have my flavatra in with spilota and burmanicus and they never bother each other.

July 8, 2009
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Fantastic info Mark cheers. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Do you know what problems Mick had with them?

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July 8, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jul 8 2009, 10:02 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fantastic info Mark cheers. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Do you know what problems Mick had with them?

If I remember rightly when Mick got his first group one individual chased and harried the others until it either killed them or drove them out of the tank, I think it also happened a second time for Mick as well.

July 18, 2009
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Tin Win has kindly supplied some awesome breeding info and a couple of images which I've added to the profile. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Sven Kullander was also good enough to provide some additional habitat information so I'm quite happy with this one!

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July 31, 2009
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Has anyone else kept G. bicornuta? I had a single, what I assumed to be adult @ around 4.5" SL, specimen. It was pretty territorial with its tankmates and I'm interested to know if others have found the same. Stunning range of colours on the body of this fish by the way. /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" />

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August 1, 2009
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This thread is great love the interaction between aquarists about the differing feeding habits , I suppose each tank is a seperate life support system really !

Mark that big paper is awesome /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> /wub.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wub:" border="0" alt="wub.gif" />

August 3, 2009
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All the bicornuta I have seen Matt (some upto and over 6" SL) have been aggressive towards other Garra's, how they are kept on their own I don't know but I have seen lone fish in shop tanks with loaches etc and these have still shown heightened aggression.

August 3, 2009
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Hey Mark, welcome back! /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Sounds familiar; mine was in with Puntius assimilis, Barilius canarensis and pulchellus plus some unidentified Indian fish (Rahul thought they were maybe Salmostoma). The Garra hung around a big chunk of driftwood and would chase the others away although it never did them any harm. Not sure it would be the same for slower-moving fish though.

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