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Rubra Nymphaea
May 23, 2009
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Hi again /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

I'm new and full of questions. I purchased a rubra nymphaea from ebay and received a small bulb via mail, I'm pretty decent with land plants, but still learning a lot with aquatic.

The bulb was received with a small amount of white fungus on it. I have written to the seller and requested a new bulb, but they would like to see if it sprouts first and if it doesn't, then send me a new one.

So, I was wondering what you recommend for the fungus (though it doesn't appear as bad since I put it in the tank) and what you might recommend to get the little bulb going if its still got the juice to go.

Thanks for your help.

July 23, 2009
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Although I've no experience of the fungus on the bulb, personally I'd stick it in a glass of water for a day or so to see if it rubs off then put it in anyway.

I found the rubra is a slower grower than nymphaea stellata for example.

July 24, 2009
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If the fungus is just on the surface then rub it off and put the bulb in your tank. Should start to see some sprouting in a couple or three weeks.

If the fungus has gotten into the bulb then its dead and your due a new one.

Lovely plants though, if you trim the leaves before they get to the surface the plant will put out loads of runners and become really bushy.

July 24, 2009
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Jul 24 2009, 09:55 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the fungus is just on the surface then rub it off and put the bulb in your tank. Should start to see some sprouting in a couple or three weeks.

If the fungus has gotten into the bulb then its dead and your due a new one.

Lovely plants though, if you trim the leaves before they get to the surface the plant will put out loads of runners and become really bushy.

Thank you very much!

It's barely sprouted unfortunately. I am thinking of writing them back and sending them a picture of how poorly it is doing. It has grown a leaf and a root and that's it :/ My other plants are doing wonderfully, so I am not thinking it's because of my growing conditions.

Any suggestions for helping it along?

July 28, 2009
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What lighting and ferts are you using? Are you using CO2?

If it's got some foliage on it then you should be fine - they are fairly slow to get going, once they do though they take off.

August 20, 2009
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Hows the bulb doing WaterRaven - has it gone wild yet or did you send it back?

February 24, 2010
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Aug 20 2009, 06:07 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hows the bulb doing WaterRaven - has it gone wild yet or did you send it back?


Hey BlueDave!

It finally started to grow, seemed to come out of the bulb entirely and I ended up taking the bulb out. It was no longer attached? It rooted into the substrate, but it was just a tiny thing. It grew very slowly and only a couple more leaves. This was months ago.

To my horror, yesterday, I looked and could not find it! It is completely gone! I have no idea what happened to it. I am totally bummed. I am not sure who the culprit was, but nothing I can do about it now.

I have a 25 gallon with a Zoo med Tropicsun light. I do not have CO2, but my substrate is flourite sand and I believe that's it.

I am very new to this, as you can see, but I am learning as I go. Actually, any books you recommend?

February 24, 2010
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If you had kept the bulb it may well have sprouted again!

Loads of books - i'm sure we've spoken about it before - i'll see if I can find a link to the post - if not i'll be back later with some titles!

February 24, 2010
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February 24, 2010
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Feb 24 2010, 10:18 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you had kept the bulb it may well have sprouted again!

Loads of books - i'm sure we've spoken about it before - i'll see if I can find a link to the post - if not i'll be back later with some titles!

Well, don't I feel like the village idiot.

Ugh! I am kicking myself for listening to that LFS employee now /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> I asked what I should do with it since it detached and he said to throw it out. I had a feeling I shouldn't because I have lots of house plants (which is why I wanted to get into aquascaping, love plants) and you don't generally throw bulbs out.

Well, live and learn I guess.

Thank you very much for the help and advice. I'll get a new rubra and try again.

Also, thank you so much for the thread link! Looking forward to getting a book!

February 24, 2010
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First rule of Fight club.... I mean fish keeping.... is NEVER listen to your LFS! Come and ask here first.

If your going to buy one as a begginer I would recommend the Peter Hiscock one. You can always buy the more advanced (and expensive) Kasselmann one later!

February 25, 2010
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Feb 24 2010, 10:27 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
First rule of Fight club.... I mean fish keeping.... is NEVER listen to your LFS! Come and ask here first.

If your going to buy one as a begginer I would recommend the Peter Hiscock one. You can always buy the more advanced (and expensive) Kasselmann one later!

HAH! I loved Fight Club! I had a discussion with someone about that recently. I mentioned how I was making some investments and how it's scary to think that your money is just a number on a computer screen... but if that information ever disappeared, say if some members of Fight Club blew up some stuff... how unfortunate that would be and she said, "Huh, I don't remember that. Wasn't Fight Club just about fighting?" /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

Ah well.

The swords are coming back to life by the way, you are ever so helpful!

So thanks again, I'll check out both of those books and maybe order the one you recommended for a beginner... the beauty of the internet /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

March 5, 2010
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I have decided to get The Encyclopedia of Aquarium Plants to start with and, I thought I might show you the new rubra I got from the LFS!

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I trimmed two leaves off and trimmed the roots a bit to encourage some new growth. At least, that's what I do with non-aquatic plants when replanting and thought I should do with the new rubra, it was looking a bit rough. I could totally be wrong... so it's a good thing I am ordering that book /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Anyway, regardless, there it is!

March 5, 2010
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Looking good - have you got a full tank shot for us? I like the look of your moss.

March 10, 2010
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QUOTE (Bluedave @ Mar 5 2010, 02:58 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking good - have you got a full tank shot for us? I like the look of your moss.


Oh, I'd love to give you a shot, but I am remodeling my tanks and moving plants around... it looks... barren. But I can get you a better photo of the erect moss if you'd like? I am just embarrassed as to how the tank looks right now, with the swords coming back and redesigning etc.

April 20, 2010
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Hi WR,

you most likely already did, just to make sure, I want to mention, to keep good nutrition close to the roots in the substrate. Like Echi's and Crypto's, those love clay-balls, I myself add certain disolved (land) flower fertilizer and inject close to roots into the substrate (fine sand seals it inside the substrate). Also certain fert.sticks do fine, provided your substrate does not leak and fish don't dig that deep. In case you are intersted, I'll go more into detail. Aquaristic products to fertilize the substrate works of course very well too (contains the same, just less concentrated). My Echis are just too hungry to keep buying the stuff at the lfs.

Wolfram

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