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Small non-riverine Asian cats
July 21, 2015
8:27 am
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I'm currently restarting from scratch and I'm just about to sell my Tachysurus fulvidraco to focus on a lake-type setup. Lilypads, gentle water, etc.

Still nothing but asian fish though, so I'm just lookiung at you guys to help me find some asian cats that don't require a hillstream or similar. Just gentle flow. preferably around 3-6 inches, solitary, pair or group is pretty irrelevant, I'm just having trouble finding non-riverine cats from asia. (If they're available here in Sweden or not is a completely different, yet very problematic, question).

So ready, set, SHOOT!

July 21, 2015
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Just saw Gagata cenia on my LFS order list, but I'm guessing they need quite a decent turnover?

July 21, 2015
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Kryptopterus perhaps. 

July 21, 2015
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I've thought about it, and it is indeed a valid option, but a bottomdweller would suit the tank more. I've yet to find one, though..

July 21, 2015
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Well, then I'd say Hara. But I guess they might be too small for your preference.

July 21, 2015
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Gagata are very much a rheophile. Pseudeutropius seem to be OK with limited flow, smaller clariids (need to be sure of ID on these!), smaller bagrids like Mystus carcius, Batasio, Pseudomystus, Rama, Nanobagrus. I've seen all of these available in the UK, may need a trip to Denmark to somewhere like Neonfisken for yourself, or down to Germany.

July 21, 2015
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I see Pseudomystus siamensis is on Glaser's list.

July 21, 2015
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I've thought about Hara, since my LFS can get both H.hara och H.jerdoni. But I thought they required quite a bit of dissolved oxygen and flow?
P.siamensis is definately a candidate! I've been thinking about them for a couple of years but my tanks have always been stocked with less than ideal tank mates. So yeah... That might be something. And if you guys feel that Hara could work in a tank with moderate flow then I have some thinking to do here!

July 21, 2015
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I now see that my LFS can get both Pseudeutropius moolenburghae and Pseudeutropius brachypopterus, what are your thoughts about these?

July 21, 2015
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Great little active shoaling fish, I prefer moolenburghae visually. Pangasius in miniature, more active than glass cats, less frantic than the African Pareutropius.

July 22, 2015
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"Roosterboy said:
And if you guys feel that Hara could work in a tank with moderate flow then I have some thinking to do here!

Hara do not require heavy flow actually, they do very well in a tank with moderate flow, well filtered water and good DO. Fish like Hara jerdoni and Erethistes pussilus are usually available on a regular basis. What is sold as H.hara usually tends to be Erethistes pussilus. 

Rama too are an excellent choice as coelacanth has suggested. I kept these in a small 'biotopish' tank along with some small cyprinids.

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July 23, 2015
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Wonderful, thank you!
I had a feeling H.hara was something else, more often than not (sadly) the fish I order from Glaser turns out to be other species. But Erethistes pussilus seems interesting!

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