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Stiphodon sp. hi-fin
August 8, 2010
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a new stiphodon found in a LFS. almost white on white sand, not eye-catching but interesting. no infos available. in the net there is just one pic corresponding, nothing on fishbase. so far
any ideas?

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August 8, 2010
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Whoa /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> thats a nice looking Goby Charles , I wonder if the black spot on the male's lower lip is a giveaway to its identity ?

Have you any idea where they came from ?

August 8, 2010
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It doesn't look like a stiphodon to me Charles, mouth is wrong? Maybe lentipes????? How long is it? Very nice whatever it is!

I see they're advertised here with the same name.
http://www.thatpetplace.com/pe.....roduct.web

August 8, 2010
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Hi Charles, just had a look through an old book and there is a similar looking Goby Schismatogobius Bruynisi ? probably way off the mark ?

August 8, 2010
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Nice goby, Charles. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

Looks like Pseudogobiopsis oligactis to me.

You can check in this pdf:

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/bib.....27-181.pdf

August 8, 2010
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Jim I think the fish in the link you posted is a Redigobius sp.?

Very nice find Charles and kudos on the id Henri, certainly looks like it!

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August 8, 2010
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thanks for the input.
stiphodon is far when it comes to the bodyshape. too short. about 5 cm for the largest male.
pseudogobiopsis oligactis: not so shure about the species. the pics are on the way to specialists who should know this genus - both cited in the description. thanks a lot for the hint. under remarks: Roberts ... a description of an undescribed species which would fit perfectly for me.
schismatogobius seems unlikely when I look at some pics.
Jim you are right: the only really similar pic is on that site.
you think it could be redigobius, Matt? couldn't find a match

August 8, 2010
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I couldn't tell much from the pic on thatpetplace, but to have the same unusual common name leads me to think they may come from the same supplier. Even if they do, they might be different. I just ordered 2 female "rainbow"sp. and got one semoni and one "orange fin" /wacko.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":wacko:" border="0" alt="wacko.gif" />

The pic of p. oligactis doesn't look right to me. Head/mouth much bigger, second dorsal different shape. Pics are difficult though even if you know what you're looking at.

I think the important thing is that it will be looking for protien, not aufwuchs. I've seen a few so-called "stiphodon"(likely lentipes) species staving lately in shops as they are left to graze algae.

August 9, 2010
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Charles I don't think your fish is Redigobius, Henri's Pseudogobiopsis guess is correct imo. The specimen in the pic Jim linked to looks like something different though? Maybe suppliers using the same name for different species? Or not??

Jim good point about the head shape. I assumed it to be related with sexual maturity as in some loaches?

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I looked through Kottelats Fishes of Western Indonesia and Sulawesi and all the Gobies mentioned here are in the book and all look similar ,however the S. bruynisi has that black mark on its lower lip ,it must be said though that the fish under Redigobius look shorter in the body !

The Pseudogobiopis Oligactis is represented with a drawing , as is P.neglectus which i m o looks closer ?

August 11, 2010
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after this shot

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I had a dejà vu:
http://www.petfrd.com/forum/sh.....thread.php...ghlight=acker71
a thread back in 2007. it's the same species?! I'll ask acker71/thomas.
last post stated that's p. oligactis, confirmed by H. Larson.
but that nose!!!

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August 11, 2010
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Looking at Jim's link again it does look like the same species...lol. /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

Charles do you want me to send some of your pics to Helen?

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yes. it's very close
that would be great with the pics

August 15, 2010
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Dr. Larson's reply:

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your fish is an undescribed (as far as I can tell) species of Pseudogobiopsis - several German aquarists have sent me photos of this fish. I have never seen specimens.
all the best
Helen

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Thanks Matt, that was quick! and thank you Dr. Larson!! How is it doing Charles?

August 15, 2010
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Stunning looking fish whatever it is /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

August 16, 2010
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thanks a lot to all.
as I wrote already to Matt: it's not p oligactis and the same species of Thomas Ackermannn back in 2006. I think it's the species cited by Helen Larson as suggested by Roberts - undesribed species. I'll show more pîcs later. and hope for successful breeding.
cheers Charles

March 31, 2012
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So you succeeded in reproduce it?

Thank you

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