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June 8, 2009
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Matt
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On we go then. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Anyone here keeping T. micagemmae?

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June 8, 2009
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I started out keeping a group of around 15 in my rivertank, I am certain they have spawned at least once in there and the group is now definitely bigger than the original 15.

They really do like the flow but tend to stay around the bogwood and roots along the back of the tank, they feed really well on fine granules, crushed flake and cyclops etc.

A very placid fish but can be quite shy, even when kept in large groups.

June 8, 2009
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Cheers Mark. Any sexual differences beyond females being slightly bigger and plumper?

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June 8, 2009
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Hi Mark, dont the males have an extended last dorsal fin ? the last ray nearest to the body ? possibly difficult to see without magnification ?

June 8, 2009
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Yeah dorsal fin is slightly longer in the males and females are noticeably plumper.

June 8, 2009
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These develop huge fins with age. I know a guy who has (or had?) a bunch of them that were around five years old, and the males fins has gotten really big.

Heres a link with some pictures:

http://www.zoopet.com/forum/bl.....php?b=4609

Text in swedish unfortunately.

June 8, 2009
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Is that naturally-occuring Gustav? /ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":o" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" />

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They're supposed to be all natural, and have developed these fins with age.

June 9, 2009
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Intriguing. I'd love to see the description paper to see if that trait was found in wild fish.

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June 9, 2009
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We had the first ones in the UK, very easy to breed and beautiful, but in spite of housing some right from birth to senescence they never developed finnage like this. There was no mention of such a trait in the origiinal paper that I can recall.

June 9, 2009
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WOW, I have had some of mine a couple of years now and there is no sign of a change like that in the finnage /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

June 9, 2009
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...and the adult ones we had in the shop display tank never grew long fins either...

Pete don't suppose you have the paper?

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Weird. Well, anyone know if there is an aquarium strain of these that got long fins then?

June 9, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jun 9 2009, 02:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pete don't suppose you have the paper?

Not as a pdf, I think I may have a hard copy somewhere, but not sure.

June 9, 2009
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Ok no worries then. Must subscribe to IEF asap. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

Is it correct that these don't grow as large as albonubes gents?

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June 9, 2009
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Hey

There have been albonubes in the hobby with long fins. A lovely xanthic strain of these fish is also available.

Y.A.A.S. showing sizes:

T. micagemmae - Male 3.5cm Female 4.0cm
T. albonubes - 4cm both sexes

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June 9, 2009
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Cheers David, I assume those sizes are TL? I was under the impression that albonubes was the larger fish? I've seen the long-finned, golden and albino forms but they didn't impress me much to be honest.

What do we know about the third species, T. thacbaensis? The only references I can find seem to suggest it requires validation and I've been unable to find any images...

Edit: did I just (almost) quote Shania Twain?? Eek! Someone bring soap I feel dirty!!

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June 9, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Jun 9 2009, 09:33 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cheers David, I assume those sizes are TL? I was under the impression that albonubes was the larger fish? I've seen the long-finned, golden and albino forms but they didn't impress me much to be honest.

What do we know about the third species, T. thacbaensis? The only references I can find seem to suggest it requires validation and I've been unable to find any images...

Edit: did I just (almost) quote Shania Twain?? Eek! Someone bring soap I feel dirty!!

Its ok Matt we will forgive you that one but we will start worrying when state you "feel like a woman" /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

June 9, 2009
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Hey

The White Clouds found in Vietnam cause (as labyrinth fish from this country also do) problems as to their true identification. Listed from Vietnam are:

T. thacbaensis
T. chacoensis
T. micagemmae

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June 10, 2009
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QUOTE (Mad Duff @ Jun 9 2009, 11:18 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its ok Matt we will forgive you that one but we will start worrying when state you "feel like a woman" /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> Ask me again on Friday night, petal. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />

I wrote to Sonja about the long-finned fish and she very kindly replied to say the male in the pics is five years old and that the guy she got them from told her they are not line-bred but develop the finnage once over a year old. She also provided an email address so I will write the shopowner now, and says we can use the pics if we want; top lady all round! /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

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