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Tateurndina ocellicauda and P. gertrudae‏
April 14, 2012
5:40 pm
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BigTom
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Hi all,

Well, I just got back from fieldwork and found out that the supposedly lime-free soil I used when I redid the Bucket last month is still bumping up the pH and hardness (about 7.3 pH and 165ppm as I type).

At the moment I'm torn between tearing the whole thing down one more time and using my own soil mix, in order to get the water conditions down to something more suitable for the Paros and Boraras (and a potential pair of Vaillant's gouramis), or just stopping worrying about the chemistry, moving the current fish into my nicely soft and acidic nano tanks and switching to something that wouldn't mind the current conditions.

Which has got me thinking a bit about fish from Oceana; I think a small group of P. gertrudae and a pair of T. ocellicauda could work quite nicely, but I've never kept fish of this sort before. My main worry is the gudgeons being a bit large and hungry looking for a setup that is still sort of self sustaining (although, to be honest, with my other half having moved in it gets extra food quite often these days). So was wondering if anyone had any idea of how voracious they might be, or any other thoughts about suitability.

Whilst I'm thinking out loud, I guess another, completely different alternative would be Yunnanilus sp. 'rosy', if I could find some, and D. erythromicon/margaritatus.

Bit vague and rambling, sorry /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

Cheers,
Tom

April 14, 2012
8:48 pm
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Very likely this will work fine. T. ocellicauda are pussycats as gudgeons go; while I have not mixed them with gerts, I kept them with I.werneri's with no problems. Your water parameters are ok for them too.

hth

April 16, 2012
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Concur that T. ocellicauda isn't 'voracious', but think you'd be missing out on some interesting behaviour by only having a single pair.

Certain Aphanius species should also do well in that tank! /ph34r.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":ph34r:" border="0" alt="ph34r.gif" />

Cake or death?
April 16, 2012
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Thanks guy, they're certainly looking quite tempting at the moment. Bit afraid of them being jumpers though, not sure if the small perimeter of floating plants would be enough to dissuade them.

April 16, 2012
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Matt is of course correct; a group of 6-12 will be much nicer to watch.

T. ocellicauda are not into jumping; at least I don't cover the tanks with them and never had a problem. (cf. this with Goo-obo's who will jump at the slightest opportunity). Gerts IME are not much into jumping either.

One problem with the setup is that it will not last long : the lifespans are about 2 years for both and while one can breed T. ocellicauda in such a tank, gert eggs will be likely all eaten.

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