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Terranatos dolichopterus
May 20, 2011
4:12 pm
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Got some new killies over the last month, I´ll give them each a thread but here´s the first one. Sorry about the quality of the pictures got an old camera.

After 6 months of (slightly anxious) waiting it was time to wet the peat from two trios of Terranatos dolichopterus "Isla Raton" wich i ordered. I had split the peat into four seperate parts and they gave varying results. The peats wich seemed two have more of the tannins left gave a much poorer result.

Here´s ma fry that´s two weeks old with it´s gut full of bbs.

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Three weeks later one can just start to sex some of the fish.

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The last picture was taken today, they really grow at an extreme pace.

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May 20, 2011
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Nice /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> This is a species I've always wanted to keep. How many fry did you get in total?

May 20, 2011
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About twenty this time, it´s soon time to rewet the peats so hopefully i can get som more. If all goes well and I get more fry and of both sexes should I put you down for one pair? I promised Janne one pair and there´s also another one in the killi society who wants a pair.

May 20, 2011
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Mmm, always fancied these too. What water conditions are they being kept in?

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May 20, 2011
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They are supposed to be kept in slightly acidic soft water, but I keep them in about pH 6 with quite a lot of salt 1 tbsp of salt per 10 litres to prevent any oodinium. This since I have too feed them so much.

My personal experience is that keeping the water a bit more acidic keeps annuals healthier, sure others have a different opinion.

Sorry Matt not gonna send any to Barcelona.

May 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Senor Bastardo @ May 20 2011, 07:03 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
About twenty this time, it´s soon time to rewet the peats so hopefully i can get som more. If all goes well and I get more fry and of both sexes should I put you down for one pair? I promised Janne one pair and there´s also another one in the killi society who wants a pair.

Sure /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Would be cool to finally try them. There's a bunch of other south american annuals that I would like to try as well. Like Spectrolebias semiocellatus and Plesiolebias and Maratecoara species.

May 21, 2011
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There is no more Plesiolebias in the hobby one has to go catch them.Spectrolebias is available in france.Real nice fish but one of the most difficult to keep.

May 21, 2011
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Yeah, that's what I've been presuming. I got some eggs from Plesiolebias glaucopteros from Francisco Falcon in Brazil a couple of years ago but they never hatched. And I've also bought S. semiocellatus eggs from Didier Pillet but I only managed to hatch a few fry.

May 21, 2011
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QUOTE (Senor Bastardo @ May 20 2011, 08:08 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry Matt not gonna send any to Barcelona.

Haha no worries, don't think they'd do too well in the water here anyway. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

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May 22, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ May 21 2011, 02:00 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha no worries, don't think they'd do too well in the water here anyway. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

What is your water like then?

May 22, 2011
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Liquid concrete, though the loaches seem surprisingly fine in it.

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May 22, 2011
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Generally I don´t think you have to consider the water so much, even if you ideally should, as long as you give them a stable enviroment. There are however cases when you really shouldn´t try to keep the fish.

My experience are that killies are quite hardy fish, except from the odd outbreak of oodinium they are generally free of health issues. Oodinium is often present when breeding annuals since they have to be fed so much and it´s hard to keep up the quality of the water.

May 23, 2011
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Hmm, I wonder how they'd do outdoors here in summer...might try with one of the more readily-available species next year. Hopefully collecting some new stuff this coming weekend which will use up all available space for now.

P.S. you might want to consider resizing your pics before posting in the future Krister as you'll use up your available upload space pretty quickly with them at that size. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

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May 23, 2011
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QUOTE (Matt @ May 23 2011, 07:52 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
P.S. you might want to consider resizing your pics before posting in the future Krister as you'll use up your available upload space pretty quickly with them at that size. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

Will do!

They should be really fine as long as they can´t jump out of the tub or pond. Hopefully they could munch on mosquitos and other insects as well wihout you lifting a finger.

May 23, 2011
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That's basically what the Aphanius do yeah.

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May 24, 2011
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The only difference should be that you need a way of harvesting the eggs since they need they need a resting period of 6 months or more (in the case of T. dolichopterus anyway).

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