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Italian newt - Lissotriton italicus
December 13, 2013
9:11 pm
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Hi,

my first try with an european newt species. Today I've purchased a group of six Lissotriton italicus. CB of course. If they doing well I want to take them in hibernation, for having a chance to breeding them next spring. L_italicus1.jpgImage Enlarger

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With 8 cm (3,15 ") it is the smallest species in this genus.

 

Cheers,

Thomas

 

December 14, 2013
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You bought them! Surprised Nice!

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December 14, 2013
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Yeah, yesterday! Didn't noticed the dorsal line in the shop. After a short negotiation I've paid 12,50 Euro for each instead of 20! Thats ok. I have to register them in the next days.

December 15, 2013
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What do you mean by 'registersting' them? Some legal process?

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December 15, 2013
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Yes Matt, all european amphibians and reptiles are reportable. At least here in germany. I don't know the whole restrictions, maybe I have to keep a breeding book. At least I have to report any changing of the population (dead, spawns or sale). Following strictly the law I have to report every egg! And deregister every dead egg. But this is much work even for the officials, so the praxis is to register only saleable animals. :)

It sounds a bit tricky but you have the certainness to get CB. I can only talk about newts but there are many different species available as CB including many subspecies.

It's  a bit funny, in germany many people crying about potential higher restriction in keeping animals, and I take a restriction freely with this newts. :)

 

You don't have the restrictions in spain?

 

 

December 16, 2013
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Just checked and it appears that we do have something similar in place.

How are they getting on?

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December 16, 2013
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They aren't too fat ;) , but I'm pleased with them. Till now not the best hunter, but they are agil and not lethargic or so. After more than half a year in not the very best placement it's ok!

A thiner candidate:

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And this evening it works better with feeding micro crickets. :) Wax maggots were still mostly spit out

 

December 20, 2013
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Those are really nice.

January 7, 2014
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How are they doing Thomas?

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January 7, 2014
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Good question Matt, I guess they doing well... Smile They are really shy, and doesn't like the light. But when I'm spraying their tank and feeding after that, they come out. A few of them Wink

January 9, 2014
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Hi Thomas - I am looking for these in the UK. How common are there to get hold of in the EU? From the couple of breeders I spoken to there are highly aquatic if the temperature is below 20 Degrees C

 

I got one that lives with some dart frogs atm.... but I don't believe that the right conditions ideally!

 

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Mark

January 9, 2014
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Hi Mark,

till now I'm a newbie with this species. At the moment I keep my group fully terrestrial.
I don't think it's difficult to get them, but it seems there are not so many keepers as other european newts has.

Cheers,

Thomas

 

January 17, 2014
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Two days ago I've started to adapting the newts to the water, with sucsess. Now they are so much more better to watch!

 

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February 16, 2014
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The whole group has done a complete agreement with the water, they doesn't use the land area.

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February 22, 2014
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And the first egg... Surprised

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February 22, 2014
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Congrats!

February 22, 2014
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Excellent!

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March 3, 2014
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Sadly the eggs aren't fertile. I'm guessing at least. They got an fungal infestation.

March 5, 2014
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Are they likely to breed again this year Thomas?

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March 7, 2014
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Don't think so Matt. Next year after a real overwintering, I hope they will do a better job. This year it is lacking of the males engagement... Wink

But till know I can find new eggs, yesterday I have seperated two again. Who knows...

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