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Anybody Use A Python Or Similar?
December 11, 2010
4:44 am
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Plaamoo
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Hey all,
I'm having some serious lower back issues, been on the floor for the past 3 days. No way can I haul buckets for water changes. I'm thinking about a Python or the Aqeuon equivilent. Is anybody using something like this? Care to share your opinon?? Thanks, Jim

I can't figure out how to edit the title, should be or, not RO, Thanks

December 11, 2010
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I wouldn't use one as I don't like the idea of adding untreated water to my tanks, although this is personal opinion and many others do it with seemingly no problems.

I do my water changes by filling up a 100l rainwater butt, treating the water and then pumping it back in using a pump and a hosepipe.

December 11, 2010
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I'm a big fan of the python water changer.

I use it to vac/drain the 400L tank and leave it refilling whilst I do the 54L with a bucket. Then I repeat the process with the python for the 240L and a bucket for the nano. In all I can do a 25% water change in about an hour.

As regards the problem of untreated water entering the tank, I add the dechlorinator directly to the tank next to the python when refilling and haven't had any problems.

Hope your back gets better soon.

PS: Title fixed.

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December 11, 2010
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Plaamoo
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Thanks for the input & the help! Eyrie, how does the siphon power compare to a typical gravity siphon when vacuuming the substrate? Another concern is cross-contamination. I never use the same siphon directly from one tank to the next. If I had more room I'd surely have more options but stuck in the small apt. for now. Thanks again!

Healing the back will be a slow process I fear /angry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry:" border="0" alt="angry.gif" /> Appreciate your concern.

December 12, 2010
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I find it isn't that strong a syphon, but it does get the job done. Part of the reason is that the syphon tube has a wide opening, and part of it is my water pressure. It's not that much of an issue for me though since I can spend a little longer vaccing the big tanks simply because of the larger volume to be removed.

Fair point about cross-contamination between tanks. I suppose you could sterilise the syphon between tanks in the same way that that you could sterilise any other equipment. That said, with well maintained tanks and a proper quarantine procedure the risk is minimal.

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December 13, 2010
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Really sorry to read about your back Jim, hope you feel better soon. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

P.s. - I don't use dechlorinator and Barcelona tapwater is among the worst in Europe. Never had any fish losses following water changes so far.

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December 13, 2010
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Thanks Matt, getting old SUCKS! It's slowly improving, at least i can walk a bit now. Interesting about the no dechlorinator. Have you done this with a broad spectrum of fishes? Small water changes?

December 14, 2010
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I use the python for my bigger tanks, don´t have an issue with my lower back I´m just a lazy &%#.

They work quite well, the only issue with them is they can clog quite easily which mean you have to go back to the sink and reverse the flow to flush out any obstructions. But once you get the hang of it it really is a good product.

By the way I never use a declorinator either, I use som oak bark extract to lower the pH whoch I pour in during the refilling.

December 15, 2010
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QUOTE (plaamoo @ Dec 13 2010, 04:28 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you done this with a broad spectrum of fishes? Small water changes?

When I was living in the UK yes, and not necessarily small changes. My big Geophagus/Satanoperca tank got a 50% weekly change and most of the others 30%. Here I have most of my fishes, including fry containers, outdoors and top up directly from the mains using a hose pipe. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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Can't believe this was 4 yrs ago. :) I finally bought one of these and wondering what took so long? I love it. Cuts my water change time in half and virtually no buckets to carry. I still do my small tanks the old fashioned way. Have to be careful what gets sucked up as it's quickly gone down the drain! Shrimplets, fry etc. Highly recommended!

January 13, 2015
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Must have missed the original post. My Python was a real boon, gave it away (or an ex did) during one of my various "changes of status", was worth every penny if you have more than a couple of aquaria (I had the extended version). Filling aquaria slowly meant I never encountered any issues from using tap water with this particular piece of equipment (I have encountered tap water issues at other times).

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