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December 25, 2009
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well for xmas I got a new community setup /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

just a trio of guppies,
trio of platies,
a spotted Hoplo
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I also got a fancy goldy(I think Oranda), could I keep it with them? Temp wise I know the others at 23 C are all comfy, but goldies are best kept 18-22 C, guess temp being at 24 shouldn't be a prob? and would it be a danger to the others (although from exp, fancy goldies are very peaceful)

December 25, 2009
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ps how come there are no entries for koi or goldfish in the kb?

December 26, 2009
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Hey Malti

Yes it is possible to keep Goldfish with freshwater tropicals - in Belgium I have seen stunning aquarium set-ups containing Goldfish and fully grown Rainbowfish.

However it is not an easy thing to attempt. Goldfish naturally prefer cooler waters thus can suffer swimbladder problems etc. when kept at high temperatures.

I love Platys but fear that they would have a 'field day' in your aquarium 'nipping' at the fins of the Oranda.

So for peace of mind a seperate coldwater set-up for your Oranda is advised.

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December 26, 2009
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QUOTE (Malti @ Dec 25 2009, 07:09 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
ps how come there are no entries for koi or goldfish in the kb?

Just not got around to doing them yet Karlos. I guess they'll be added at some point. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

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December 26, 2009
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QUOTE (David Marshall @ Dec 26 2009, 03:16 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Malti

Yes it is possible to keep Goldfish with freshwater tropicals - in Belgium I have seen stunning aquarium set-ups containing Goldfish and fully grown Rainbowfish.

However it is not an easy thing to attempt. Goldfish naturally prefer cooler waters thus can suffer swimbladder problems etc. when kept at high temperatures.

I love Platys but fear that they would have a 'field day' in your aquarium 'nipping' at the fins of the Oranda.

So for peace of mind a seperate coldwater set-up for your Oranda is advised.

Regards David


thx for the reply /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

do you think that if goldies are kept at 24 C (instead of 22 C) there could be swimbladder probs? I'll think I'll try it if it doesn't damage them alot, and keep an eye on the platys... I have an extra empty tank, but I was thinking of using it as nursery for my lobsters

December 26, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Dec 26 2009, 03:26 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just not got around to doing them yet Karlos. I guess they'll be added at some point. /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" />

thats ok /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> will you just put the normal forms or the various fancies?

December 29, 2009
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hey malti, i have experienced high temps in my goldy tank, we had a drought ages ago an the temp went up to 27 degrees c. the goldfish seemed very happy, apart from my common. he was at the bottom sulking, so i did daily water changes, around 5% of freezing water to bring it down. in my exp. fancys are much more resistant to high temps but be very careful when introducing them, try and bring the temp up at around 2 degrees a week. this will give time for the fish to adapt. normal tropical fish are easily kept at around 25 degrees c. fancys if acclimatised will be happy at this temp. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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QUOTE (JackGillett @ Dec 29 2009, 02:38 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey malti, i have experienced high temps in my goldy tank, we had a drought ages ago an the temp went up to 27 degrees c. the goldfish seemed very happy, apart from my common. he was at the bottom sulking, so i did daily water changes, around 5% of freezing water to bring it down. in my exp. fancys are much more resistant to high temps but be very careful when introducing them, try and bring the temp up at around 2 degrees a week. this will give time for the fish to adapt. normal tropical fish are easily kept at around 25 degrees c. fancys if acclimatised will be happy at this temp. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

thanks /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> The current temp is 24 C maybe 24.5 C and all are doing great, might try introducing the lionhead oranda later on

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Hey Malti

Hope all is going well with the aquarium.

Interesting reply from Jack.

Regards David

December 29, 2009
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QUOTE (David Marshall @ Dec 29 2009, 11:00 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Malti

Hope all is going well with the aquarium.

Interesting reply from Jack.

Regards David

Hey David,

yep guppies are preggers, and platies are at it aswell /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="Laugh" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> still have to introduce the goldy.

went "fishing" with a net for some rosy barbs today in a friend's reservoir...there must be a billion...only got a female in an hr's nettin /blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blink:" border="0" alt="blink.gif" />

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QUOTE (Malti @ Dec 26 2009, 01:36 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats ok /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> will you just put the normal forms or the various fancies?

I guess I´ll undertake a mountain of reading and do it ´properly´ but don´t expect them anytime soon mate. Just about finished the Danio profiles now and was going to move onto Devario but had enough of danionins for now so onto loaches we go!

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December 30, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Dec 30 2009, 02:16 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I´ll undertake a mountain of reading and do it ´properly´ but don´t expect them anytime soon mate. Just about finished the Danio profiles now and was going to move onto Devario but had enough of danionins for now so onto loaches we go!

if there's anyway I can help with the info, just post a pm...

December 30, 2009
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Cheers Karlos, will do. /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" />

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December 30, 2009
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Hey Malti

Did you take any photographs of feral Rosy barbs in Malta?

Regards David

December 30, 2009
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they are not really feral - just kept in a reservoir. we only have a feral killifish aka buzaqq and now the gambusia

December 31, 2009
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QUOTE (Malti @ Dec 29 2009, 01:42 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks /thumbs_up.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumbsup:" border="0" alt="thumbs_up.gif" /> The current temp is 24 C maybe 24.5 C and all are doing great, might try introducing the lionhead oranda later on

Hi Malti and Hi guys in general.
At the moment I have 5 goldies, 4 cory's and a very common pleco.
I had them for two years in 22 C, and they grew so large I had to divide them into two tanks very recently. The goldies are in splendid health, from 10 till 18 cm long (including the tail) and no sign of "topsy turfy swimming" at all. I have two in the 60 l. tank with 22 C because Hala, my comet tail goldy became so long that she needed some extra space. She stayed with the smaller veil-tails and the pleco (also a good 18 cm) in the 120 l. tank.
I have to admit there is a lot of work keeping the tanks clean and in balance because they really wreck up things big time.
The cory's, eventhough they are so much smaller, rule the tank though. They are not afraid of any of the larger fish, not even for the large Mr. Spock, the pleco.
Hope you had something with my tiny contribution.

December 31, 2009
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Karlos feral = domesticated creatures living in nature so your barbs count but not the Aphanius!

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December 31, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Dec 31 2009, 10:25 AM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Feral = domesticated creatures living in nature [/i]!


Oh dear Matt, I guess that means that I am feral. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />
Espero que mis vecinos no se encuentran con que sea fiero.

December 31, 2009
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QUOTE (Matt @ Dec 31 2009, 06:25 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Karlos feral = domesticated creatures living in nature so your barbs count but not the Aphanius!

you're 100% right...and had just read a whole load of stuff on feral pigeons and damage they do... /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" /> /blush.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":blush:" border="0" alt="blush.gif" />

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QUOTE (thelizzious @ Dec 31 2009, 04:48 PM) < {POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Malti and Hi guys in general.
At the moment I have 5 goldies, 4 cory's and a very common pleco.
I had them for two years in 22 C, and they grew so large I had to divide them into two tanks very recently. The goldies are in splendid health, from 10 till 18 cm long (including the tail) and no sign of "topsy turfy swimming" at all. I have two in the 60 l. tank with 22 C because Hala, my comet tail goldy became so long that she needed some extra space. She stayed with the smaller veil-tails and the pleco (also a good 18 cm) in the 120 l. tank.
I have to admit there is a lot of work keeping the tanks clean and in balance because they really wreck up things big time.
The cory's, eventhough they are so much smaller, rule the tank though. They are not afraid of any of the larger fish, not even for the large Mr. Spock, the pleco.
Hope you had something with my tiny contribution.

Hi Lizz.

did u think of trying to mate them?

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